Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari, Hungaroring, 2017

2017 Hungarian Grand Prix grid

2017 Hungarian Grand Prix

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Row 11. Sebastian Vettel 1’16.276
Ferrari
2. Kimi Raikkonen 1’16.444
Ferrari
Row 23. Valtteri Bottas 1’16.530
Mercedes
4. Lewis Hamilton 1’16.693
Mercedes
Row 35. Max Verstappen 1’16.797
Red Bull
6. Daniel Ricciardo 1’16.818
Red Bull
Row 47. Fernando Alonso 1’17.549
McLaren
8. Stoffel Vandoorne 1’17.894
McLaren
Row 59. Carlos Sainz Jnr 1’18.311
Toro Rosso
10. Jolyon Palmer 1’18.415
Renault
Row 611. Esteban Ocon 1’18.495
Force India
12. Nico Hulkenberg 1’17.468
Renault
Row 713. Sergio Perez 1’18.639
Force India
14. Romain Grosjean 1’18.771
Haas
Row 815. Kevin Magnussen 1’19.095
Haas
16. Daniil Kvyat** 1’18.538
Toro Rosso
Row 917. Lance Stroll 1’19.102
Williams
18. Pascal Wehrlein 1’19.839
Sauber
Row 1019. Paul di Resta 1’19.868
Williams
20. Marcus Ericsson 1’19.972
Sauber

*Five-place grid penalty for gearbox change
**Three-place grid penalty for impeding

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31 comments on “2017 Hungarian Grand Prix grid”

  1. Its a bit sad to see more often than not the 2 drivers from the same car at the same grid position. It simply show that a lot is due to the car rather than the driver, luckily the mid-field is in a better shape on that front.

    1. Hans (@hanswesterbeek)
      29th July 2017, 13:52

      Welcome to Formula 1 @pyon ;-)

    2. Well, as long as the two drivers in a team are competent, the difference between them shouldn’t go past 2-3 tenths. So if the gaps between the cars are bigger than that, teammates will end next to each other.

  2. The gap between Hulkenberg and Palmer (in Q2, let alone with Hulk’s Q3 time) was bigger than the gap between Stroll and Di Resta, who hadn’t driven the 2017 car before qualifying. Get Kubica in already.
    Shame Hulk had to take a penalty, so starts 12th though. Both McLaren’s into Q3 round here proving that the chassis is pretty good on that car, and proving that the reason they’re doing so bad is completely Honda’s fault.
    Disappointing from Hamilton, struggled all day today, now just 1 ahead (6-5) in qualifying v Bottas, although all 6 of the times he’s been ahead he’s been on pole.
    Ricciardo unfortunate that he had the problem in FP3, as the car wasn’t quite the same for him since – would’ve likely qualified perhaps even ahead of Hamilton if his car hadn’t needed fixing.
    Unlucky for Magnussen, exact same time as Perez but set it later which meant he was out in Q1 instead of being into Q2.

    1. @hugh Mclaren were 1.2 seconds off the pace of Ferrari, and I would reckon their engine probably costs them somewhere around 0.7-0.8s, so they would be right up there with Mercedes and Red Bull if they a competitive engine. Although Red Bull would move up as well.

      1. If you believe Alonso, he says they lose 2-3 seconds on the straights in China :D.

        So, here they must be losing at least 1-1.5 seconds.

    2. Get Paul. Button was impressive .2 off Vandoorne though he got the whole of practice and he was just 6 months off F1. Seriously impressive from Di Resta. Paul was really tentative on the throttle but still more steady on the steering wheel than Stroll. He got Q1 and that’s that, everything new, not even 2 weeks to prepare.

      1. @peartree I’ve seen several comments of yours about DiResta. I’m not denying he had a good day but he was not even close to a future star back in his F1 time. He is as much out of place as Palmer is.

        I’m also quite sure Kubica wouldn’t do much better. They’ve been out of it way too long. If Renault want points they should try to get Sainz, Ocon or Wehrlein.

        1. He is as much out of place as Palmer is.

          @xtwl Eh, I don’t remember him to be that bad – and that’s not only because KAR had to drive an HRT the same season(s?) as a benchmark of what “bad” was :p

        2. @xtwl back when he was driving, a lot of people rated Di Resta very highly, and others obviously less so. Personally I thought he was quite solid, other than a poor second half of 2012 (which ended with him crashing in that amazing race in Brazil). I remember some incredible races from him.

          Stroll still being very inexperienced is obviously not the best benchmark, however it seems to me that if you look at his lap time it is there or thereabouts good. I hope this opens up a window to F1 for him again.

        3. @xtwl What? In F3, Di Resta beat Kobayashi, Vettel, Van der garde, which were his teammates and also Grosjean, Nakajima and Buemi, no offence it’s not the low calibre of many seasons of the more recent f2 or gp3 crops.
          Di Resta was solid, reliable and quick in his f1 career, back in 2013 he had a string of failures and bad luck, mostly caused by his team, punctuated by unprofessional attitude towards his employer, and that got him fired. He was blistering quick he raced a lot like Perez, he pretty much matched Hulk in 2012, and in terms of pace beat Sutil, regardless his f1 career is over, even good drivers like Button didn’t get to threaten a teammate for 3 or 4 seasons into their f1 careers.

    3. The gap between Hulkenberg and Palmer was pretty stark. If Kubica does well in the post race test, Palmer may be gone despite Renault’s assurances that he’s safe. A gap that large should not be tolerated given the circumstances.

      1. @velocityboy – agreed, particularly when the car itself is developing nicely and moving ahead in the grid, you’d really want two top drivers in there.

      2. Paul Ortenburg
        30th July 2017, 7:52

        Especially when you consider he’s a whole 1 Sec slower on a track with a lap time of 77~78 Secs.

        That’s just woeful.

  3. It’s all over! Hamilton is going to walk to title, Ferrari have lost the development race again!

    Ah sorry, my comment is a race late.

    1. Omar R (@omarr-pepper)
      29th July 2017, 15:04

      @adrianmorse hahahahaa love your sarcasm.. Yeah, many people were saying the championship was over. TBH, I kind of felt the same. It’s nice to see Red Bull can enter on the mix as well, especially after summer break they might steal a couple of wins.

    2. @adrianmorse It still is to be expected Hamilton wil win it, that doesn’t mean Vettel could still steal a win here and there.

    3. @adrianmorse
      You are as good as your last race :)

    4. @adrianmorse @omarr-pepper the thing is, Ferrari are always incredibly strong at this track. In their winless 2014 season, when they were miles off the pace, they still came very close to winning, and in 2015 they ran away with it, and it would’ve been a 1-2 had Kimi’s engine not blown.

      Therefore I would expect no different here this year. On the contrary, other than Singapore and perhaps Malaysia, the races in the second half of the season have never particularly been strong for them, especially as they normally focus on next year’s development early, while others bring big updates after the summer. These races have been Red Bull territory from 2009–2013, and Mercedes territory from 2014–2016. I’d be quite surprised if this changed much this year.

      1. +1. Don’t let single results fool you. I am 100% sure Hamilton will win the title unless he faces massive bad luck in the last 9 races. Vettel will most likely get 2-3 more wins this season, and that’s not going to be enough. Besides, winner of Hungary hasn’t won the title since 2004 ;)

  4. Pretty impressive from Di Resta.

  5. Not enforcing track limit rules in qualifying is a joke. F1 is not a sport.

    1. I was watching F1’s YouTube highlights of one of the early grands prix at this circuit. It was amazing. The entire circuit was lined with this weird green stuff (grass, I think it’s called). It was very effective at enforcing track limits. It baffles me why they don’t have it these days.

  6. Austrian commentators noticed that the driver who won Hungarian GP hadn’t won that year championship since 2004. Maybe Seb should let Kimi win this one :)

    1. I doubt Kimi will be in a position to win only by Vettel moving aside.

      1. @rethla Well, if something like that happens again it’ll still be within the confines of what once comprised the Austro-Hungarian empire

    2. And who won the 2004 title? That’s right, Michael Schumacher.

  7. I hope max doesn’t get unlucky again and has a decent race. Red Bull’s (and Tag Heuer’s) march threw the field is impressive. Maybe 2018 is the rebirth of Red Bull with Max?

    1. Red Bull have TAG Heuer-badged Renault engines.

  8. Lewisham Milton
    29th July 2017, 22:08

    Is this a “Honda track”?

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