Prost “very disappointed” as split from Alpine is revealed

18 comments on “Prost “very disappointed” as split from Alpine is revealed”

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   bosyber (@bosyber)
   17th January 2022, 22:03

   After the way Renault F1/Alpine has seemed stuck in politics at the top for much of its latest return rather than in the details of getting a faster car out, hearing Prost left made me wary for how the team is doing for the season, and Prost’s implication that it’s about interpersonal relations breakdown certainly doesn’t help.

   I really hope Alonso and Ocon can stick together as a solid pair in trying to keep the team moving forwards, because there seems to be a lot of pressure to change course every time the team threatens to even get on the gas.
   1. 

      Tristan (@skipgamer)
      17th January 2022, 23:25

      At the end of the day the team Abiteboul setup and the direction the team was heading wasn’t producing the results and trajectory he consistently promised. Alpine are still adjusting and working with what they have and removing those they don’t see as necessary or maybe are stuck with Abiteboul’s plan/way of thinking.

      Positive developments I think, but time will tell.
      1. 

         bosyber (@bosyber)
         18th January 2022, 11:46

         I see your point, but feel skeptical it is somehow going to work this time @skipgamer, it really seems like another ego-battle at the top, which certainly isn’t what this team most needs.
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   DB-C90 (@dbradock)
   17th January 2022, 23:50

   Not sure how to interpret what is going on at Alpine.

   Change can be both positive or negative but given their complete lack of major progress since returning as a full manufacturer, and indeed their lack of a usable PU prior to that, I’m inclined to lean towards it being negative.
   1. 

      Todfod (@todfod)
      18th January 2022, 5:10

      @dbradock

      For some reason every change that happens at Alpine seems about the team not getting things right. It’s not like they’ve found a great direction, and they’re building on that by trimming the fat, it instead feels like another failure and a back to the drawing board approach.

      Honestly, this team’s been a mess ever since it got back on the grid in 2016. I think they’ve peaked at P5 in the Wcc. They don’t look capable of beating Ferrari or Mclaren, who are building on positive momentum. Beating Red bull and Mercedes is just a dream for them right now. Feel bad for Alonso, who’s going to be spending his last season or two in a poorly managed team with lesser potential than Mclaren had at the end of 2018.
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   Sensord4notbeingafanboi (@peartree)
   17th January 2022, 23:55

   “Mike Krack” says Alain after getting the boot.
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   PT (@pt)
   18th January 2022, 3:59

   If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Too bad Laurent Rossi doesn’t get it. I think his ego is making decisions and causing political rifts in the team. So sad to see Prost go. Under Otmar’s leadership the Force India/Racing Point/Aston Martin outfit didn’t see any noticeable growth, as far as I can remember. What makes Rossi think he’d be great for Alpine? Is it because of the BWT sponsorship Otmar is expected to bring? Alpine improved significantly this year. I hope these leadership changes don’t topple the growth trajectory of the team. Too much politics and too many changes ruin a team’s prospects. Examples: Toyota, Jaguar, BMW Williams.
   1. 

      amian
      18th January 2022, 17:06

      “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
      This is the stupidest quote you could use when discussing anything that progress and development is part of.
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   U2F1 (@u2f1)
   18th January 2022, 5:25

   There is some news about Flavio making a comeback.. That would make things interesting
   1. 

      bernasaurus (@bernasaurus)
      18th January 2022, 8:00

      @u2f1 Doesn’t Flavio have a ‘lifetime ban’? I know this is F1 and a few conversations in the darker corners of the paddock can change anything, but it would be pretty bold of Renault to go down that route.
      1. 

         BasCB (@bascb)
         18th January 2022, 8:31

         That lifetime ban he got got thrown out when Flavio took it to a real court, since the rules (at the time) did not actually specifically covered/included team principal responsibilities, so the court ruled that the FIA ruled on something they had no jurisdiction on.
         1. 

            bernasaurus (@bernasaurus)
            18th January 2022, 8:44

            Ahhhh…… thank you @bascb
   2. 

      Kyle S
      19th January 2022, 11:37

      Given the corporate environment F1 has become, I think Otmar Szafnauer is a much better fit.
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   marcusbreese (@marcusbreese)
   18th January 2022, 7:50

   As much as I respect Prost as a driver, his record in senior leadership of racing teams has been less than glowing.
   1. 

      Moi
      18th January 2022, 10:31

      Agreed. And at the risk of generalizing, a 66-year-old Frenchman’s outlook on leadership might not be compatible with a younger, modern way of team management.
   2. 

      Esploratore (@esploratore1)
      19th January 2022, 0:29

      Yes, the prost team didn’t really leave a mark like the ex driver who managed it.
   3. 

      Mayrton
      22nd January 2022, 12:49

      Agree, and I didn’t like him at all as a driver too. We often call him Le Profiteur as he used mainly politics to get his titles.
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   Le Jimster (@lejimster82)
   18th January 2022, 13:26

   Lots of change going on at Alpine and Aston Martin. But I would honestly be surprised if either of them are in the fight for the title anytime soon. Maybe 5 years if they have got the right people in place.

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