Worst Car 2010
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I can forgive the fuel tank mistake but HRT have started to be quicker than them on occassion. It’s hard to compare esp when between the two teams there are 3 rookies but Virgin should really be ahead of HRT. Also though well done to HRT for making good of what little they have.
They are. Hispania may have beaten them in practice, but Virgin have struck back and they’re now in front in qualifying. They do have an unreliable car, but the biggest problem was that fuel tank – you can’t just lengthen a car. You have to totally re-design it. So Virgin have to essentially start developing a car late; they should be well into development by now, but instad they’re only really just beginning.
Williams. Every other team that is having questionable performance has an excuse for it in my eyes. Lotus, Virgin and HRT (especially HRT) are new and therefore have catching up to do. Sauber were left in the rubbish by BMW (which I thought was very nasty of them really), so they’re still pulling themselves together.
Williams have no excuse. Year after year they make promises, year after year, they push in testing and flop when the first race comes round. They have enough funds, and they sure as hell have enough experience, so seriously, what is their problem?
Williams, easily the worst car of 2010.
Williams definitely have the worst car.
HRT may have the slowest, but Williams, the worst and most disappointing.
Good point Tom. But…
We heard so much last year about how Brawn had stopped developing early because they felt they had enough of an advantage in the championships to still win. Ferrari as well were lauded for doing so when they had the best pace in testing and after winning the first race, but they haven’t been dominant even in the races they’ve done best at and barely looked like challenging in the others. Then there was BMW stopping early in 2008 to produce a dog of a car. Meanwhile McLaren developed all the way through 2008, started 2009 horribly but continued development 3/4 of the way through the season and are currently leading this year’s championships.
This “working on next year early” idea seems to have become a total myth when you look at the evidence.
Williams have no excuse. Year after year they make promises, year after year, they push in testing and flop when the first race comes round. They have enough funds, and they sure as hell have enough experience, so seriously, what is their problem?
They don’t have Newey or BMW V10s anymore
Fair point Scribe, McLaren haven’t been particularly inconsistent at all. They’ve won half the races and been competitive in most of the other. I just couldn’t think of any other inconsistent teams? Anyone have any suggestions. I suppose Ferrari have been up and down from race to race
Itchyes, I still feel Mercedes nee Brawn should be allowed this year and judged next. After they received the BGP-01 the decision to start developing next years car from Monaco isn’t actually unusual, most teams are in fact planning their cars at that stage, Brawn just made a bigger deal of it.
As well as the fact Brawn did not have the recources to develop in two directions at once, they barley had the recources to get to races for a lot of the season, it was all done on a shoe string, so when they had to restart work on the BGP-01 the MGP W01 will have suffered, an even when Mercedes came in to the team despite their cash the transition and restructuring that inevitably must have gone on, along with the restructuring and upheaval caused by Honda’s departure will have made one unstable enviroment to be birthing an F1 car, an yet they’ve been a stable 4th on pace, they introduced innovative and significant steps to their cars, they’ve grabbed a couple of podiums and good finishes an they seem to have a strong base for progression next year, when only a fool could right them off. So although the Mercedes is by no means the front runner we’d all expected, they’re in the fight for best of the rest with Renault and it must still be remembered the team nearly fell of the map a year ago.
I think the W02 is the car that should be used to judge the Mercedes F1 team, the intelligence of the venture and it’s future in F1, but I’m just happy they seem to be here to compete this year.
I was thinking the same thing Ned. A terrible race from Mclaren, for them, would be podiumless looking at their season so far. The real spots of inconsistency have been where they’ve screwed up qualifying in Q1, which isn’t a real reflection of the car.
I’m not judging them Scribe, I’m just saying starting early hasn’t been proved to be of any guaranteed benefit. Brawn could have come up with the DDD in December 2008 and they would still have had the advantage they had. Although if I am judging them, I would still say they were doing poorer than they should have. Maybe they didn’t have the money from mid-2009, but they’ve had it a while now; if their initial car can be forgiven for being 4th-best, their progress since then can’t be.
We heard so much last year about how Brawn had stopped developing early because they felt they had enough of an advantage in the championships to still win. Ferrari as well were lauded for doing so when they had the best pace in testing and after winning the first race, but they haven’t been dominant even in the races they’ve done best at and barely looked like challenging in the others. Then there was BMW stopping early in 2008 to produce a dog of a car. Meanwhile McLaren developed all the way through 2008, started 2009 horribly but continued development 3/4 of the way through the season and are currently leading this year’s championships.
Red Bull also developed right up to the end last year, and look at how they started the season. I think you make a very good point here. Maybe cutting your losses midseason and focusing on the following makes a difference for some of the smaller teams, but clearly something is a bit off at Ferrari…
HRT. Virgin is better as sometimes it reaches Lotus in races but it’s unreliable.
I think the Williams is a pretty ncie car! they were pretty off the pace at the beginning but since Valencia they often get their 2 cars in Q3. They’d done better than Sauber and FI of course on a regular basis after that. They’ve been very unlucky sometimes, hence their position at the constructors champ.
I think the most dissapointing car is the Merc and the Sauber.
The Merc should’ve been a lot closer to the front, and it wasn’t. I thought it was a possible front-runner but they clearly aren’t. Tho both Nico Rosberg and Petrov managed to keep Merc ahead of Renault.
On the other hand, BMW Sauber said they were focusing on this year’s car early last year. So i thought it was their ticket to the front of the grid (or at least reasonably close due to BMW quitting and adapting the car to a new Ferrari engine). But it wasn’t.
What I find excellent about this thread and thank you Fizy for starting it again, is just how much things have changed due to development. Ferrari looked terrible but have been right with Red Bull for the last few circuits pretty much and Mclaren have dropped back even though they’ve been throwing everything at the car. Sauber are improving, FI look poorer and Williams have made gains too. It just shows how intense the development war is.
So order on how well the teams have done for how well thier car is:
1.McLaren – the only team to have scored in every race
2.Lotus – fantastic for a new team
3.Renault – bounced back brilliantly from a poor three seasons
4.HRT – For a car that first turned a wheel in Bahrain practice, they’ve closed the gap to the guys ahead all season
5.Toro Rosso – two inexperienced drivers and first car they’ve built themselves, not done that well, but good to score points with high level of talent
6.Red Bull – very quick, very fragile
7.Ferrari – Alonso has really got it hooked up now, but earlier it was slow
8.Mercedes – huge letdown after last season
9.Sauber – very unreliable
10.Force India – end of last year promised great things….
11.Williams – Just not performed
12.Virgin – CAD designed car promised great things… never happened
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