2015 Canadian Grand Prix team radio transcript

2015 Canadian Grand Prix

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Not for the first time this year, in Canada Nico Rosberg found he was unable to get the information he wanted from the Mercedes pit wall at a critical moment.

However a message to his team mate earlier in the race seemed to indicate Mercedes were willing to give the same information to Lewis Hamilton that they later denied to Rosberg.

Shortly after discussing his own fuel saving strategy for the race Hamilton was advised that Rosberg was “safer on fuel” than he was. On previous occasions, such as in Australia, Rosberg had been told the team could not give him information about the other car’s fuel level.

And when Rosberg asked for that same information later in the race, in a message broadcast with five laps to go, he was again told the team “can’t comment” on how much Hamilton had left in his tank.

Last year the FIA imposed restrictions on what teams could tell their drivers on the radio, but they did not exclude information about fuel levels. However Mercedes has an internal policy of not telling their drivers how the their team mate is performing in terms of fuel-saving.

The message Hamilton received was ascribed to human error on the pit wall. Rosberg is aware Hamilton received information which would normally have been denied him, but wrote in his column for German newspaper Bild yesterday that he still “trusts the team 100 percent” to treat them equally.

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The number six Mercedes had other problems in the race, as the team radio transcript highlights. His brakes were in a “critical” state in the middle of the race, but he had them under control in time for the final ten laps of the race when he made his last push to get within range of Hamilton.

The race saw a number of incidents which provoked some interesting responses. Will Stevens was not at all impressed with Romain Grosjean’s driving. The Lotus driver blamed him for their collision, but by the end of the race his certainty that he was in the right was already begin to soften, and afterwards he accepted he’d been in the wrong.

Events of previous Canadian Grands Prix weighed on Kimi Raikkonen’s mind. Before the race he was anxious to avoid a repeat of the infringement which earned him a grid penalty two years ago in Montreal.

He then spun at the hairpin, triggering memories of his similar incident last year. Raikkonen apologised to his team after making his second pit stop of the race.

Here are all the team radio messages which were broadcast during the coverage of the Canadian Grand Prix.

2015 Canadian Grand Prix team radio transcript

PRKimi RaikkonenDavid GreenwoodIf there is a queue of cars I can go past, I don’t have to…
PRDavid GreenwoodKimi RaikkonenRight, correct.
PRKimi RaikkonenDavid GreenwoodYeah, so all the cars that have arrived I just have to start behind them. Not waiting on the left because there was this stupid rule that you have to go in the order that you stack up.
PRDavid GreenwoodKimi RaikkonenIf there’s people on the right not doing starts you have to go with them.
PRBrad JoyceNico HulkenbergClutch nine
PRNico HulkenbergBrad JoyceIf you give it to me the clutch going in to turn ten, Brad, I can’t react immediately, obviously.
PRBrad JoyceNico HulkenbergCopy that Nico, I wasn’t sure you’d heard as turn ten is actually a black spot on the radio.
PRRomain GrosjeanUnknownWhere are the guys there is no one here?
PRUnknownRomain GrosjeanThey are just making their way over I believe.
PRTony RossNico RosbergCancel RS, feedback on the start.
PRNico RosbergTony RossLittle bit under-engaged.
PRBrad JoyceNico HulkenbergThe second start was not too bad, a little bit under-engaged, but this one now felt a bit weird.
PRNico HulkenbergBrad JoyceCopy that Nico. So to the grid now. Cool the engine on the way.
PRJenson ButtonUnknownMy drink is not working.
PRUnknownJenson ButtonOK roger that.
PRDavid GreenwoodKimi RaikkonenKimi we lost telemetry on the start, did you have wheelspin?
PRKimi RaikkonenDavid GreenwoodNo it was OK, it was more or less fine.
PRDavid GreenwoodKimi RaikkonenCopy.
PRSebastian VettelRiccardo AdamiComing to the back of the grid.
PRLewis HamiltonPeter BonningtonDon’t know if you boys can hear me. I just wanted to say a big thank-you for all the hard work this weekend putting the car back together. Didn’t get to see you all individually but really appreciate it.
PRPeter BonningtonLewis HamiltonJust a reminder, head wind is the main straight to the last chicane, just be mindful of that. Track temp’s just dropped a degree, we’ve got quite a lot of cloud cover.
PRMax VerstappenXevi PujolarHow many people are starting on the super-soft around me?
PRXevi PujolarMax VerstappenJenson behind is with [soft], Vettel with [super-soft].
FLUnknownLewis HamiltonStart working the brakes and the tyres as much as you can. We really need to work those fronts.
FLValtteri BottasJonathan EddollsSeems to be a bit more grip on the grid than the exit of pit lane.
2Tom StallardJenson ButtonBox this lap, we’ll take our drive-through penalty.
2Jenson ButtonTom StallardBox this lap.
3Max VerstappenXevi PujolarWe’re in a good position there, try to stay in DRS.
4Daniil KvyatGianpiero LambiaseI’ll do a little bit of fuel lifting now. It’s a good opportunity.
4Felipe NasrCraig GardinerSeems like I have no power.
4Craig GardinerFelipe NasrNo more overtake button. Don’t use the overtake button.
5Dave RobsonFelipe MassaThis is good, just keep picking them off. We are the lead [soft] runner.
5Jenson ButtonTom StallardIs everything OK with the engine?
5Tom StallardJenson ButtonYes Jenson, we believe all OK.
7Tim WrightSergio PerezThis pace is better, you can pull a gap to Ericsson. We are Strategy A.
7Daniil KvyatGianpiero LambiaseSome vibrations in turn ten on the front-left side.
7Gianpiero LambiaseDaniil KvyatCopy, Dany.
8Tom StallardJenson ButtonJenson we could be racing Vettel at pit exit.
10Dave RobsonFelipe MassaMassa overtook Ericsson.
Nice job Felipe that was excellent. So next car is Perez.
10Erik SchuivensMarcus EricssonJust try to stay with him now.
12Gianpiero LambiaseDaniil KvyatWe have a hot rear caliper. So be aware. That is why we have moved the brake balance forward, OK, at this stage. So just easy on the brakes. Everything you can to try and save it. Brake balance forward three clicks. Caution with that change, OK.
13Nico HulkenbergBrad JoyceMy front-left tyre looks pretty ugly. It’s getting worse and worse and graining.
13Tom StallardJenson ButtonHow are the tyres?
13Jenson ButtonTom StallardThey’re OK. Just lacking grip, obviously, the front locking. Rear’s going away a little bit but not too bad.
14Dave RobsonFelipe MassaDoing a great job Felipe, catching up Ricciardo a second per lap.
16Jonathan EddollsValtteri BottasJust give me some more feedback on tyres. How many laps left on this set?
16Valtteri BottasJonathan EddollsLosing a little bit of traction now. Maybe something between 15 and 20.
16Jonathan EddollsValtteri BottasCopy.
16Mark TempleFernando AlonsoWe need to start doing some fuel saving. Let’s target zero on the dash.
16Fernando AlonsoMark TempleIf I save fuel the battery is not going up.
18Tom StallardJenson ButtonThis is fuel three, we need fuel six.
18Jenson ButtonTom StallardI mean, you would not believe how early I am lifting off.
18Daniil KvyatGianpiero LambiaseStruggling to stop the car into the chicanes.
18Gianpiero LambiaseDaniil KvyatOK rearward one click brake balance. Temperature is starting to come under control now, OK, so we’ll migrate the brake balance rearward as we can.
20Dave RobsonFelipe MassaKvyat in front has brake problems. Let’s clear him as soon as we can.
21Sebastian VettelRiccardo AdamiCheck the front-right corner, I touched with Alonso.
21Kimi RaikkonenDavid GreenwoodI’m suffering a little bit on the left-front.
21David GreenwoodKimi RaikkonenUnderstood. OK Kimi let us know if the left-front becomes a big problem, we can stop at this moment.
24Nico HulkenbergBrad JoyceAre we still on the same target stop lap or later?
24Brad JoyceNico HulkenbergBecause we’re in a good position at the moment we’re looking at another plus three, something like that. You’re doing a very good job.
25Mark TempleFernando AlonsoNasr is seven-and-a-half seconds back. We must save fuel, we must target zero.
25Fernando AlonsoMark TempleI don’t want, I don’t want.
25Mark TempleFernando AlonsoThe version of this exchange played on the main feed omitted this response from Temple.
We’re going to have big problems after if we don’t.
25Fernando AlonsoMark TempleAlready I have big problems now. Driving with this, looking like amateur. So I race and then I concentrate on the fuel.
25Mark TempleFernando AlonsoThere may still be retirements later in the race, we need to make sure we can still fight for positions in the end.
26Simon RennieDaniel RicciardoCharge eight. If warm-up’s bad, attack him while he’s still warming up.
26Romain GrosjeanJulien Simon-ChautempsHe’s just in DRS, doesn’t let me past. Come on, come on to lap. Come on!
26Julien Simon-ChautempsRomain GrosjeanDon’t worry Romain we are talking to Charlie about it, he knows. OK Romain, Charlie is on it.
27Xevi PujolarMax VerstappenTry to get into the DRS zone.
27Max VerstappenXevi PujolarI’m trying.
27Tony RossNico RosbergSo Raikkonen has pitted, push hard now. Go strat five.
28Kimi RaikkonenDavid GreenwoodThat, exactly same happened last year. Suddenly it just the K kicks in.
28David GreenwoodKimi RaikkonenUnderstood, understood, just get back in the rhythm.
30Mark TempleFernando AlonsoAnd Fernando while the tyres are OK we’d like to keep going because a Safety Car would play to us if there was.
30Brad JoyceNico HulkenbergWe’re safe where we are, we’ve come out in the correct position.
32Gianpiero LambiaseDaniil KvyatTyre information: At the pit stop tyre wear was good. We need exactly the same tyre management for this stint.
32Dave RobsonFelipe MassaAlmost all cars are going to one-stop this race. We are on plan C and we are target plus for.
32Felipe MassaDave RobsonTo be honest losing more than a second behind these guys at the minute.
32Dave RobsonFelipe MassaUnderstood Felipe. They have been given a warning. I know that doesn’t help us but let’s just make the most of this free air ahead and let’s push on.
34Jenson ButtonTom StallardThe tyres have actually got better.
34Tom StallardJenson ButtonUnderstood, Jenson. Still happy with front wing angle?
34Jenson ButtonTom StallardYes.
36Tim WrightSergio PerezPace and deg look good.
36Sergio PerezTim WrightI’m going to attack Kvyat.
36Sebastian VettelRiccardo AdamiTyres are still holding up.
36Riccardo AdamiSebastian VettelOK still good, tyres still good.
36Sebastian VettelRiccardo AdamiBut if you want to go for it you can now, I’m close.
36Riccardo AdamiSebastian VettelOpposite of Massa.
37Tony RossNico RosbergNico, brake wear is now critical. So we’d like you to manage it for the next ten laps before you attack Lewis.
37Dave RobsonFelipe MassaHow are the tyres now?
37Felipe MassaDave RobsonFeeling a little bit more the rear now, the rear’s going.
37Dave RobsonFelipe MassaUnderstood.
39Brad JoyceNico HulkenbergVettel behind’s on a two-stop.
39Nico HulkenbergBrad JoyceDoes he have to stop again or not?
39Brad JoyceNico HulkenbergNo Vettel doesn’t have to stop again.
39Xevi PujolarMax VerstappenLet’s go for a big push now in next two laps.
39Max VerstappenXevi PujolarFuel saving or not?
39Xevi PujolarMax VerstappenYes, still with the fuel. Keep the target on the fuel. But push more on the tyre.
39Lewis HamiltonPeter BonningtonLift-and-coast later in the race is not the strategy. I’ll lose temperature in the tyres. Need to be able to push later.
39Peter BonningtonLewis HamiltonCopy that Lewis. So we do the lift-and-coast now so we’ve got the fuel margin at the end of the race.
40Gianpiero LambiaseDaniil KvyatOK don’t worry. Massa on [super-soft] ahead. Obviously that’s a long way for him to go. Most important thing for us here, Dany, is to keep things clean, OK?
41Jonathan EddollsValtteri BottasYou’re lapping Nasr. Race update: Rosberg in front is critical with his brakes.
41Tom StallardJenson ButtonLast four laps is fuel four. We still need fuel six.
41Peter BonningtonLewis HamiltonNico is safer on fuel but a little more critical on brakes.
43Jenson ButtonTom StallardLet’s not pit yet guys. Let’s stay until we feel we are losing time. We can have some fun on the other tyre, even if we’re at the back.
43Tom StallardJenson ButtonOK, understood JB.
44David GreenwoodKimi RaikkonenOK Kimi just…
44Kimi RaikkonenDavid Greenwood…sorry, yeah, sorry guys for the pit stop.
44Sebastian VettelRiccardo AdamiHulkenberg spun after going side-by-side with Vettel into the final chicane.
Where is Hulkenberg? I did not touch him. Where is he?
44Riccardo AdamiSebastian VettelHe spun in the chicane.
45Tom StallardJenson ButtonJenson if you want to have some fun on the [super-soft] tyre at the end we need to save fuel now. So fuel seven.
46Tony RossNico RosbergYou’ve done a really good job with brakes, there. We want you to continue like that for the moment, it will give us margin to attack.
46Nico HulkenbergBrad JoyceThere is no chance. We’d have collided.
46Brad JoyceNico HulkenbergOK we’ll look into it, Nico.
46Fernando AlonsoMark TempleI have no power.
46Mark TempleFernando AlonsoOK, stand by.
46Fernando AlonsoMark TempleAlonso could see the tell-tale signs of another power unit failure.
Now it seems OK, but obviously we know the procedure.
47Fernando AlonsoMark TempleBox, box. Nothing is working.
47Mark TempleFernando AlonsoOK, understand. We’ll park it in the garage.
48Tom StallardJenson ButtonJenson, Fernando has retired. No reason that should affect us.
49Nico HulkenbergBrad JoyceHow is this pace now to our competition?
49Brad JoyceNico HulkenbergThe pace is good. We’re slightly pulling away from Kvyat and coming up to lap Button.
51Romain GrosjeanJulien Simon-ChautempsGrosjean collided with Stevens while lapping him.
He hit me! He hit me! This is not possible.
52Will StevensJosh PeckettBox, box, I’ve got a puncture, the front-right, Grosjean hit me.
52Josh PeckettWill StevensUnderstood mate. In now, in now.
52Will StevensJosh PeckettHe’s so stupid, he comes across in front of me every single time he overtakes. Where does he want me to go, off the track?
52Josh PeckettWill StevensOK understood, mate. We’ll have a look into it.
52Brad JoyceNico HulkenbergFuel save down to 30 now.
52Nico HulkenbergBrad JoyceCopy. How about tyres, are you concerned, or can I push?
52Brad JoyceNico HulkenbergNot concerned on tyres.
52Nico HulkenbergBrad JoyceMy front-left is starting to grain again a little bit.
53Josh PeckettWill StevensGrosjean has received a penalty.
54Dave RobsonFelipe MassaDoing really well with fuel and pace also very good. Let’s keep this up, this is excellent, still quicker than Vettel ahead.
55Julien Simon-ChautempsRomain GrosjeanSo we are P11 at the moment. It’s still very long, Romain, more than 20 laps to go.
55Romain GrosjeanJulien Simon-ChautempsYeah but they blocked twice those guys they need to learn something.
55Jonathan EddollsValtteri BottasEverything’s looking good. At this pace Raikkonen will catch us just after the race. You’re bringing the fuel to target. Continue like this.
56Tom StallardJenson ButtonWe need to keep saving the fuel. We are spending fuel with high rpm during lift-and-coast. Target low rpm during lift-and-cost.
57Riccardo AdamiSebastian VettelGood job, keep pushing like this. We are P5. Kimi in front of you, racing Kimi, 12 seconds.
57Tim WrightSergio PerezGrosjean has a penalty, we need to stay within five seconds.
58Tom StallardJenson ButtonWe need to box this lap and retire the car. Cool the brakes at the pit entry.
58Jenson ButtonTom StallardOK, on my way in.
58Peter BonningtonLewis HamiltonEverything looks good. Keep plugging away.
60Peter BonningtonLewis HamiltonThis sounds like a longer version of the previous message.
Everything looks good. Keep plugging away. This gap at 1.8. Suggest we introduce just a little bit of lift-and-coast to buy us a bit of margin at the end of the race. Currently looking OK, though.
60Lewis HamiltonPeter BonningtonHamilton asks if he should begin lifting 100m earlier – he’s told he doesn’t need to back off that much.
How much is a little? A hundred?
60Peter BonningtonLewis HamiltonFifty metres is enough.
60Peter BonningtonLewis HamiltonNico has been managing brakes but they’re now under control. So we’ll just need to monitor.
61Dave RobsonFelipe MassaThat’s good Felipe. Remember the battery is full. Remember we’re racing Maldonado for position. We’re over one second per laps quicker than him.
62Romain GrosjeanJulien Simon-ChautempsI’m losing all downforce.
62Julien Simon-ChautempsRomain GrosjeanOK we need to pass Kvyat, try to pass Kvyat.
62Daniel RicciardoSimon RennieJust can’t lean on the tyres any more. Braking, really easy to lot either fronts or rears. So just lost the grip
62Simon RennieDaniel RicciardoOK mate understood.
64Roberto MerhiNicholas PerrinnSomething is broken on the rear.
64Nicholas PerrinnRoberto MerhiRoberto see if you can make it back. Can you make it back?
64Roberto MerhiNicholas Perrinn…is broken. I try to go to the back, OK?
64Nicholas PerrinnRoberto MerhiRoberto do not shift.
64Julien Simon-ChautempsRomain GrosjeanOK Romain situation is you have a five-second time penalty. You need to pass Kvyat and gain five seconds on him. Do your best.
64Romain GrosjeanJulien Simon-ChautempsWhy do I have a penalty?
64Julien Simon-ChautempsRomain GrosjeanFor causing a collision with the Marussia.
65Nico RosbergTony RossHow’s the other car on fuel?
65Tony RossNico RosbergNico I can’t comment, can’t comment.
66Dave RobsonFelipe MassaThis is excellent. So three-tenths quicker than Vettel. Vettel is going to get some traffic.
67Erik SchuivensMarcus EricssonThe gap is increasing he is 1.4 out of DRS. Keep doing what you’re doing.
67Peter BonningtonLewis HamiltonGo strat mode 12 to the end of the race. We need more lift-and-coast, 50 metres.
69Peter BonningtonLewis HamiltonWe need 100 metres lift-and-coast
69Lewis HamiltonPeter BonningtonI thought I was safe on the fuel.
69Peter BonningtonLewis HamiltonYou were safe when you were doing 50 metres lift-and-coast. When we start pushing the consumption does ramp up. Suggest give us the fuel saving, Lewis. Gap is at 3.5 so it’s perfectly safe.
69Lewis HamiltonPeter BonningtonI’m lift-and-coasting, please leave me to it.
70Peter BonningtonLewis HamiltonPlenty of space. 3.5 seconds. We just need to save a little bit in terms of tank pressure.
VLMarcus EricssonErik SchuivensI’m running out of fuel.
VLErik SchuivensMarcus EricssonCopy, stop the car. It’s not fuel, Marcus, we have a problem.
VLPeter BonningtonLewis HamiltonWell done Lewis, great drive mate.
VLPaddy LoweLewis HamiltonWell done Lewis, great drive.
VLJonathan EddollsValtteri BottasFantastic job, P3.
VLValtteri BottasJonathan EddollsYes! Well done, guys. Amazing work. Really good strategy and good team work all weekend. Really happy, thank you guys.
VLRob SmedleyValtteri BottasGreat job Valtteri. Excellent job, thank you very much, that was an absolutely flawless drive. Good lad. That’s what we needed, first podium of the season.
VLValtteri BottasRob SmedleyThanks I hope there’s many more to come.
VLKimi RaikkonenDavid GreenwoodSorry for the spin but there was not much that I could have done.
VLDavid GreenwoodKimi RaikkonenUnderstood, Kimi. We’ll have a proper look through it. I’m sure there’s some stuff from our side as well. Sorry for that, Kimi.
VLRiccardo AdamiSebastian VettelGreat, P5, great recovery, good drive.
VLSebastian VettelRiccardo AdamiOK, grazie ragazzi, grande l’amoro [thanks boys, big love]. Sorry for the first pit stop, and after that good recovery. Start and the first lap I should have been a bit better. Difficult to get more but thank you, grazie. The car was fantastic in the race. Could have been quicker in the last stint. Grazie.
VLDave RobsonFelipe MassaFantastic job, that’s a really good drive. Obviously a real shame what happened yesterday but a great recovery, fantastic overtaking, especially on that Sauber near the beginning of the race, that really made a difference, great job.
VLFelipe MassaDave RobsonOK, yeah, well done boys. Was a good race.
VLRob SmedleyFelipe MassaGreat recovery Felipe, that was absolutely brilliant mate. Well done, thanks very much, got us another point. That was a stunning drive really making that [super-soft] last as long as you did. Thanks you very much.
VLMark SladePastor MaldonadoWell done Pastor, great drive, finally got a point. That’s great, well done mate.
VLPastor MaldonadoMark SladeOK well done guys, good race. Bit tough with the tyres.
VLMark SladePastor MaldonadoYeah I know you did a great job, difficult circumstances with the tyres. We were only beaten by quicker cars today, can’t ask any more than that, well done mate.
VLBrad JoyceNico HulkenbergGood job mate. Unlucky with the Vettel overtaking. Good job, solid race mate.
VLNico HulkenbergBrad JoyceAre we P8 or…?
VLBrad JoyceNico HulkenbergWe’re P8. Obviously Vettel and Massa managed to get past us in that incident. Maldonado managed to do another ten laps, twelve laps on his tyres, that meant he got us I’m afraid.
VLGianpiero LambiaseDaniil KvyatThat’s a very solid job, P9.
VLDaniil KvyatGianpiero LambiaseThanks you guys, thanks. Solid race. We knew it’s not going to be easy here I think, so thank you.
VLGianpiero LambiaseDaniil KvyatYeah agreed.
VLRomain GrosjeanJulien Simon-ChautempsOK if it was my fault with the Marussia, I’m very sorry.
VLJulien Simon-ChautempsRomain GrosjeanSo you will keep your P10 because you finished roughly ten seconds in front of…
VLRomain GrosjeanJulien Simon-Chautemps..but the rule says that the lapped cars should leave the line to the…
VLJulien Simon-ChautempsRomain GrosjeanRomain, I know. We will watch the video together.
VLRomain GrosjeanJulien Simon-ChautempsYes. If it’s my fault I’m very sorry but, well, that’s..
VLJulien Simon-ChautempsRomain GrosjeanOK Romain. Don’t worry, we will watch the video together.
VLTim WrightSergio PerezP11 unfortunately. Good job from your side. Just couldn’t quite get the point there.
VLDaniel RicciardoSimon RennieDon’t really have much to comment. I was trying and just couldn’t get any more out of it. Bit of a strange weekend.
VLSimon RennieDaniel RicciardoYeah, understood mate.
VLXevi PujolarMax VerstappenGood drive, save fuel. Good drive. Shame with the penalty we couldn’t get further up.
VLMax VerstappenXevi PujolarYeah I think it’s not bad.
VLCraig GardinerFelipe NasrFinishing position 16, quite an uneventful race for us. Of course the time that we lost in the first stint on the brakes really lost our connection with the pack there. Also our overall pace I think we have to take a look at, I think we’re missing a little bit of something.

Lap: Refers to lap message was broadcast on. There may be a delay between messages being said and being broadcast. PR = pre-race; FL = formation lap; VL = victory lap.
Message: Repetitive or irrelevant messages omitted. Notes in italics. Highlights in bold.

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70 comments on “2015 Canadian Grand Prix team radio transcript”

  1. Radiogate yay. This is a terrific little conspiracy.

    I also loved how Toto was grinning at the camera in his face near the end of the race, that was hoping to catch him celebrating Lewis beating Nico :))

    1. I’m sure Nico expected that after the fiasco last race.

    2. There is no conspiracy here.

      He was grinning at the camera because Niki was playing him up, even blowed a kiss at him at one point, not because Mercedes had some how engineered a situation where they enabled Lewis to win, conspiracy theorist love reading every face emotion of anybody who appears on camera, they are almost always wrong.

    3. All races are influenced by strategy, fine. But are we getting strategy-engineered racing now?

      1. Probably a positive message i.e Nico is safe on fuel can be given, rather than he is not safe on fuel, as this can give an advantage to a chasing car to take advantage of.
        In addition an answer to Lewis Hamilton regarding the status of Nico’s brakes, is also ok as its does not give him (Lewis) information necessary to attack, since he is the lead car. I believe had Hamilton been the chasing car they would not have given him the information on Nicos breaks as this would aid his attack for a pass, armed with such information

  2. Gianpiero Lambiase really doesn’t suffer fools does he! One almost can infer that he views racing drivers as a corruptive force in the neat regularities of running a racing car. I wonder what the response would be if Bonno or Mark Temple ended their messages with “I’m not going to tell you again, OK!” It’s almost a shame that Alonso didn’t take Vettel’s place at RBR, and thus had Lambiase as his engineer!

    It is interesting that fellow Frenchmen Julien Simon-Chautemps has replaced Ayao Komatsu as the voice in Grosjean’s ear. I wonder if the toils of 2014 started to weigh too heavily on that relationship.

  3. wesleysneijder
    10th June 2015, 13:18

    even “the drink ” doesnt work in honda :/ :D

  4. what a lot of fuel saving! my poorly though through solution would be to use some sort of heavy fuel and start with whatever amount you like. for example, you start with loads of fuel (enough to push throughout without lift-and-coast/shortshifting) but the car is much heavier. conversely, you start with a minimal amount and a light car.

    it seems too gimmicky for words, but maybe that’s not the problem. i think the likelihood under any new proposed regulation is that the engineers get a handle on it too quickly and all parties eventually converge on the same solution (this happens more and more frequently with tyre strategies – everyone does broadly the same thing), as they do with aero designs.

    we’re losing the randomness associated with engineers struggling to find perfect solutions (and each trying different ideas out) – even in the late 90’s people weren’t getting on top of new regulations so quickly that we missed the fun of divergent solutions. now, the regs are so restrictive everyone runs more or less the same car design and the format (qualy/tyres/engine/fuel) demands the same.

    1. and to extend that point: the circuits are too similar so you don’t get the variation within teams. in 1994 the ferraris had a significant advantage at monza and hockenheim because of their straightline speed suiting the track characteristics. we’ve now lost a lot of that variation.

      1. @frood19 that is (unfortunately) exactly what Ecclestone wants…

  5. 41-Peter Bonnington-Lewis Hamilton:Nico is safer on fuel but a little more critical on brakes.
    60-Peter Bonnington-Lewis Hamilton:Nico has been managing brakes but they’re now under control. So we’ll just need to monitor.

  6. One thing which got my attention during the race was the message to Hamilton as to the necessary distance to lift and coast ie. 50 metres (lap 60). To me that seems to be specific driving advice, which I thought was prohibited under the current interpretation of the rules? I am not having a go at Hamilton or his engineer specifically, I’d ask the same question irrespective of who the message passed between.

    1. Maybe they should just say lift and cost, without giving a specific number. Or they should only repeat save fuel until he is saving enough fuel. But it is a complicated matter I think, with different strategies and such. On the other hand, if the guy is doing a 1 stopper he can pace himself….

    2. they also told Ham at one point that Nico was safer on fuel but critical on brakes. When Ros asked about the other’s car fuel consumption they told him “can’t comment”

      There was a few details that I though were a bit strange

    3. Yeah @tdog it’s a bit of a nonsense. I think they should go back to unlimited radio personally, I thought we got interesting insights from it and I didn’t think it actually made anyone quicker. They can tell all in the garage after all.

      So far nobody’s been penalised for radio use anyway, so as night follows day the engineers will keep exploring the boundaries. Then most likely it’ll be a ‘junior’ driver they pick on.

      But I don’t understand how they don’t have a fuel gauge in the car, with a range readout! Or brake temperatures, tyre temperatures…

      1. @lockup

        I don’t understand how they don’t have a fuel gauge in the car

        Here you go:

        Why do F1 cars keep running out of fuel?

        1. That explains why there is not a “conventional” fuel gauge, but engineers still have info on fuel, drivers can have that too?

        2. Thanks @keithcollantine, interesting article, though as vtf says they have the fuel metering and the initial load so the data is around if they wanted to display it. There must be a reason they don’t but it seems obscure. The onboard camera?

    4. Mercedes in particular have been flouting the no coaching rules on an ongoing basis. But its not like the F1 press is going to make a big stink about it since Hamilton is involved.

      1. Vettel fan detected.
        Remember Vettel asking for a multi-12 and the team telling Webber to do a multi-12 and he didn’t even knew what it was?

        Something way more serious. And nobody cared. Why should someone care about this, now?

        1. British press and Hamilton relationship is there for all to see, you don’t need to be a Vettel fan to see that. One doesn’t automatically follow the other.

          1. Imagine Rosberg got what he wanted to know and Hamilton was denied. We wouldn’t have heard the end of it.

          2. That would be the “radiogate” alright!

      2. Your comments always seem to follow a certain pattern- extreme and over ululation for Vettel and on the other scale, fine picking any fact/stat that presents Hamilton in a bad light. Just what is your issue exactly with Hamilton if I may ask?

  7. “grande l’amoro [thanks boys, big love]”

    Ahah: that’s not “amore” but “lavoro” the italian word for “work”.
    Also “grande” doesn’t mean like “big” but is more like “excellent”.

    1. If it was ‘lavoro’ he needs to work on his pronunciation because it doesn’t sound anything like it. I listened to it several times and if it had sounded anything like ‘lavoro’, I’d’ve put that. I’m pretty sure this is something that’s come up before.

      But he’s basically just saying thanks so it’s not as if this is anything of great consequence.

      1. But ‘l’amoro’ and ‘lavoro’ *do* sound pretty much the same, apart from one letter :/

        1. @keithcollantine
          Not trying to defend Vettel’s Italian, or split hairs, but since there is no such word as “amoro” in Italian (“love” is “amore”), we can be pretty confident that he was complimenting the team on their job, instead of making obscure references to Pixies songs. ;-)

          1. On an unrelated note: I think I should buy some glasses. Sorry Alessandro for repeating pretty much everything you already said.

          2. @nase
            You are talking about the guy who went “Crazy Frog” on radio….

  8. It’s more likely that Vettel’s message was ‘grande lavoro’/’great work’ and not ‘grande l’amoro’. ‘Amoro’ is not an actual word :/

  9. The Mercedes psychology was clear. I was watching the numbers throughout, they were never more then 0.3kg usage apart throughout the race.

    Mercedes wanted them to hold position, a safe 1-2 at as slow a speed as they could keep them down to. Tell the guy in front he shouldn’t need to go faster and either tell the guy behind he has no chance, or let him sweat with no info.

    They played exactly the same tactic in Spain, it was just the other way around and some different words to Lewis, no conspiracy.

    1. Lewis was not gonna catch up in Spain, neither in Malaysia. Why is it so hard for people to believe Lewis cannot do “hammer time” every time he needs to catch up with someone putting lap after lap in clean air… Sometimes there are limits to tyres or fuel etc.

      1. You may not think it, but that’s my point exactly, better to have the man in second place accept it and not take life from the equipment by ramping up the ‘modes’, whether or not a pass or catch is possible. A 1-2 is what the team are looking for.

        1. Respect your opinion. But like I said, I don’t believe he would have caught up.

  10. OmarR-Pepper - Vettel 40 victories!!! (@)
    10th June 2015, 16:47

    Great for Seb to admit he could have done better. Humble guy! How can’t people like this pal? And as when he was at Red Bull, he always thanks the team a lot for every result.

    1. I really like Vettel. He’s such a “normal” but smart guy. He always makes you laugh, very funny in press conferences and such.

      1. I was surprised at his sense of humor – he’s very witty for a sports figure.
        I read (or maybe watched) an interview somewhere that said the people who work with him say he actually holds a lot of his humor back when in public. Would love to see what it’s like in private.

        1. Yeah, he sounds like a particularly intelligent guy actually.

    2. @omarr-pepper

      totally agree. Lots of driver talk about how they can improve, but how many get so specific and with their teams, especially at the rather abstract level that he’s talking about.

      In the paddock, he mentioned to Sky that he needs to go look at the footage to see what he could have done better.

      Even last year, he often talked that it was up to him to figure out how to drive the car (once he accepted that the car could be made to suit him). Even on the podium in Malaysia he owned his poor showing last year.

      What’s funny, is that Ricciardo actually is suffering in comparison to Vettel this year, not on the track, but how he’s dealing with disappointment of a car not up to his standards (just imagine the step down for Vettel from 2013 to 2014!).

      1. Yeah I’m disappointed with Ricciardo. Now he sort of reminds me of di Resta and Webber.

  11. 60 How much is a little? A hundred?
    60 Peter Bonnington Lewis Hamilton Fifty metres is enough.

    This is a specific instruction on how to approach braking before a corner. If this is not coaching, then nothing is. Stewards, Charlie, anyone? Are you gonna enforce the rules, or is it the wrong team?

    41 Peter Bonnington Lewis Hamilton Nico is safer on fuel but a little more critical on brakes.
    60 Peter Bonnington Lewis Hamilton Nico has been managing brakes but they’re now under control. So we’ll just need to monitor.
    65 Nico Rosberg Tony Ross How’s the other car on fuel?
    65 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Nico I can’t comment, can’t comment.

    And this appears to be a clear case of No 1 vs No 2 driver. But no, according to the Merc, it’s just a human error, due to personal reasons. Well, it looks like at least two human errors separated by 19 laps, during which time nobody at Merc’s pitwall was apparently concerned about what Bonnington was doing.

    Ok, let’s say it was a human error. Wasn’t Monaco one as well. Where’s The Times and Daily Mail? Why so quiet?

    1. Some are saying that the repetition of “can’t comment” could be a code message.
      Conspiracy everywhere huh?

      1. It was determined pre-race that “can’t comment” would be code for “Shut up, Nico. Lewis is better than you – know your role!”

    2. One would think, after they realized Bonnington had given Lewis confidential info, they would have given the same info to Nico in order to equalize the situation.

      1. I don’t think the stewards would buy that one.

        1. But giving info on your competitor’s fuel situation is not explicitly forbidden? It is coaching that’s not allowed anyway. This restricted info between teammates has more to do with Mercedes policy than the radio ban.

    3. Ok, let’s say it was a human error. Wasn’t Monaco one as well. Where’s The Times and Daily Mail? Why so quiet?

      The answer is pretty straight forward. A “Victimized Rosberg” doesnt generate that much news in comparison to a “Victimized Hamilton” no matter whether Hamilton is being victimized or not. Also, one must not forget Hamilton is the best World Champion, better that Rosberg or Vettel could ever be.

      So much show off for equal treatment. Sigh

      1. You’re missing one key point though. They said this to Hamilton as a mistake, so when Nico asks they don’t know for sure Hamilton won’t be investigated. So why risk Rosbergs race as well ? People are pointing towards this being unequal treatment, but it would be crazy to give Rosberg the info if they’re already worried they’ve overstepped the rules with Hamilton.

        1. But there is nothing in the rule that says people cannot ask for information on fuel consumption of the competition. If he was asking for Vettel’s fuel situation do you think team would be breaching the rules by giving info to Rosberg on that?

        2. @f190 It would have been” mistake” if they gave information only on lap 41. But Bonno gave another information on lap 60. They had 19 laps in between to think about the mistake. Paddy Lowe should have asked Bonnington not to repeat the mistake again. But they didn’t think about it. It got to their mind when Rosberg asked for the information and suddenly they realized – Oh, we are breaching the radio ban rules, we shouldn’t do it.

          I know Bonnington had a very tough weekend, he lost his father. But Mercedes bosses could have given him leave for a race knowing how emotional he would be feeling and add to that tremendous pressure of being a driver’s engineer on a grand prix weekend.

          Like @shena pointed out above, if lewis would have been denied the information we would have not heard the end of it.

  12. The Mercs save brakes and fuel for almost a full stint so they can ‘race’ for the last 10 laps/70?

  13. Lewis given fuel info by the team, Rosberg given race wins by the team. The team still OWE Hamilton a lot more.

    1. Grow up, will you?

  14. Does anyone know what happened in the 44. lap? I don’t understand Kimi’s radio transcript.

    1. From the video, he overshot the marks by about 10-20cm. The front jackman and a couple of mechanics at the front end had to dodge the car a bit.

  15. Michael Brown
    11th June 2015, 1:10

    “Well done Lewis, great drive mate.”

    The same line from Bonnington and apparently (from what we get) no response from Hamilton. Can’t even be happy for the winner when they don’t celebrate over the radio.

    I never thought I’d say it but Hamilton is boring

    1. Its getting to easy for him pretty much explains it

    2. Or perhaps he just gave an acknowledgement, and FOM didn’t play it because there were other, more interesting things to play, we can’t really know; I’d assume he answered though.

  16. Why did Mercedes give Lewis Hamilton information which was withheld from Nico Rosberg? The race radio transcript explains all.

    I don’t see how the radio transcript explains why Hamilton was given information that Nico didn’t get…

    1. One thing to note is the driver can receive general information if it is broadcast, but a driver cannot ask for specific information. Rosberg keeps asking for specific information, but information that a driver or team specifically reveals over the airwaves can be conveyed as information to the other drivers.
      But in all the radio ban is stupid and can not be precisely regulated, because it shouldn’t be applicable to team mates

    2. @mattds Are you taking that literally to mean just the transcript rather than the transcript article, or have you not read the opening six paragraphs?

      1. @keithcollantine yeah I took it as if the radio messages themselves would explain this. I read the opening paragraphs but the only thing that touched upon it was “The message Hamilton received was ascribed to human error on the pit wall.”, but without a source. Maybe it’s in Rosbergs column but I can’t access that article.

  17. We saw so much lift-and-coast last weekend because the cars were pushing right to the 100kg limit (a graphic near then end showed both having used over 97kg with more than a lap to go). But we’re seeing l-‘n’-c on other less demanding circuits as well. Obviously there’s a break-even point where the benefit of starting with a lower fuel load is outweighed by the loss of top speed on the straights. It would be interesting to know the maths involved in calculating the optimal load (probably fairly complex, which is why it would be interesting!)

  18. Why did Vettel apologise for the first stop? I remember it was maybe 3 seconds too slow, but was it his mistake?

    1. @mike-dee sorry doesn’t always imply an apology, sometimes it’s an expression of regret (of the pit stop going wrong, in this case).

      That could be the case here.

      1. Did Ferrari mention what was the problem with his pit stop?

  19. for a moment there, Romain thought he might race alone and win the race by default there…

  20. Wish they added the transcript for the Practice and Qualifying too… I couldn’t make out what Ricciardo said in Practice 3 and I can’t find anyone who can tell me. Sad panda.

    1. I used to transcribe the messages for qualifying but there wasn’t enough interest in the articles to justify carrying on with them. If you describe the message you’re interested in I’ll see if I can get what it was.

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