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Hamilton: Beating Verstappen for eighth title would be my most meaningful triumph

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Lewis Hamilton says clinching an eighth world championship this year would be his most meaningful achievement yet as he fights to overhaul Max Verstappen over the final two races.

The Mercedes driver has won the last two rounds of the championship, cutting Verstappen’s lead to eight points with just two grands prix remaining.

Asked whether denying Verstappen the title, and winning a record eighth world championship, would be his most significant and meaningful achievement to date, Hamilton said: “It would be, yeah, for sure.

“For one being that it’s something that no one’s ever done before. It’s been against the toughest battle that the sport has seen in a long, long time and the most challenging. So I think collectively it would be.

“Plus, we’re in a pandemic with all sorts of things that we’ve been faced with.”

Beating Michael Schumacher’s record of seven world championships would put him and the team in “uncharted territory”, said Hamilton. “No one’s ever won eight titles,” he said, “so that’s quite fresh and new.”

In addition to the seven titles he has won, Hamilton has gone into the final race as a championship contender on three other occasions. He said that experience is helping him at this stage in the season.

“I’m more relaxed than I’ve ever been, I think because I’ve just been around a long time,” said Hamilton. “It’s not my first.

“I remember how it was, my first championship, and even my second and third, the sleepless nights and all those sorts of things. Obviously I’m a lot more sure about myself and just applying myself better than ever before.

“So I know I can’t change anything from the past. All I can do is prepare the best I can for what’s ahead of me and I one hundred percent know I have.”

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107 comments on “Hamilton: Beating Verstappen for eighth title would be my most meaningful triumph”

  1. Meaningful in which sense? It’s only by his blessed luck he is still in the fight. Essentially 4 DNF to 1, enough said.

    1. Oh, shut up.

    2. It looks like Max didn’t look after his car well enough then is e ended up with 4 DNFs.

      (I thought I’d try talking at your level: how did I do?)

      1. Amazing care-taking skills at Imola sliding off into a ditch and at Russia crashing on the pitlane.

    3. I fully agree. Should have been wrapped up already. Maybe he means he finally beat some-one in that car that is not his team mate.

    4. Including a forced DNF at Silverstone.

      Unless, you think it was really a sensible thing to aggressively defend at Silverstone when he had a 33 point lead?

      1. Again about Silverstone… I’ll be as fair as possible.

        It’s the third time Lewis touches front wheels with a car’s rear wheels and he gets a slap on the wrist.

        I do not think it was deliberate in the “I wanna crash you out so I close the championship gap” sort of way but it’s a fact that he almost never gives respect when getting overtaken from the outside. But to be fair to him he also almost never tries to overtake from the outside. And… I disagree with that view, I don’t want to see the overtaking from the outside disappear.

        He scored maximum points that race so obviously, it was a failure of a penalty. I think the way FIA enforces the rules “We do not care about consequences.” and “Each incident is unique.” is absolutely wrong. It’s exactly what somebody would say when he wants to control the outcome of the decision. FIA is a failure with incidents (including Brazil this year and many others Gasly in Turkey etc). I mean think about it, Max was in front of lewis so Lewis already gained points by throwing him off the race. You obviously need to penalize him so he doesn’t gain any more than those 7 points.

        If we are being fair and Max should have been hurt for being bold(even though I disagree as I said above) it should have been those 7 points in the lead plus maybe a few more by Hamilton finishing 9-10 (due to Mercedes’s advantage over the field).

        So in my opinion and sense of fairness, it was 18 points gifted to Hamilton.

        1. “it was a failure of a penalty” in football do they repeat the penalty kick if the team kicking it misses ? or do they repeat penalty kicks until the team getting it wins ?

          On the other hand maybe Max could have been wiser and avoid the collision like Lewis did in Brazil? Mere 10cm and he is world champion by now ?

        2. Great post. Technically, I agree. My point is that if you’ve a 33 point lead, you show a bit more discretion.

          The problem is that when you do, i.e. Lewis at Brazil – because you don’t get end up out of the race, there is no penalty to the aggressor.

          So it’s nonsensical that Massi thinks the ‘outcome’ is irrelevant – if that’s true what was Brazil all about. Plus Bottas’s severe penalty was because of the ‘outcome’ of his dozy approach.

          1. Even if he would have given Hamilton more room, he probably would have been hit as Hamilton was unlikely to make the corner.
            Maybe he should have gone off track like Leclerc did in the same race as he pulled the same trick again, and again being nowhere near alongside enough to nake it stick. Leclerc was lucky to run off track or he would have been hit also.

          2. @banbrorace Well, you would “show a bit more discretion” if you had the brain power to process the information.

          3. @scbriml

            Totally irrelevant point to the subject, but thanks Steve.

            Pleased to see I clearly irritate you so much, when merely making a very fair point.

            I’ll make it in a different way.

            Hamilton has learnt, particularly after his difficult 2011 season, to generally always remember to live to fight another day (or another corner to make it super simple for you!!)

            Max hasn’t.

            Hence, if the Silverstone situation was reversed, particularly if Hamilton had a 33 point lead, he would have pulled out of defending and there would be no crash and realistically the worst case scenario would his lead getting cut by 8 points. Max lost at least 18 points and perhaps as high as 33.

            Do you understand now? This is not an attack on Max, who has been brilliant all season. It’s an observation that his great strength, utterly ruthless on the track – also is a weakness.

            Let me know as if you need it explaining again, I’ll be happy to do so

          4. @silfen

            How was he unlikely to make the corner?. Yes, he ran slightly wide – but that was no worse than what Max did at Brazil.

            So Max does what Lewis did at Brazil and lives to fight him later in the race of loses 7 points to him, rather than 25.

            “Maybe he should have gone off track like Leclerc did in the same race presume you mean Max? if so yes he should as he pulled the same trick again, and again being nowhere near alongside enough to nake it stick. Leclerc was lucky to run off track or he would have been hit also” in that case then Lewis should have hads another penalty – because basically, as you see it he ran Leclerc off the track and gained an unfair advantage, explain why this didn’t happen??!!

          5. @banbrorace You seem to have misinterpreted my comment. It certainly wasn’t aimed at you. Apologies for not being clearer.

          6. @banbrorace I didn’t say Hamilton pushed Leclerc off track. He did that on his own because of understeer and lack of grip. I only said that that was his luck, otherwise he probably would have been hit by Hamilton like Max was hit. Because the overtake was never on imho, had Leclerc stayed on track.

        3. @cobray

          I’ll be as fair as possible.

          Nope. Not even close to fair. You made your position clear with your previous comment and just doubled down on your obvious bias.

          So in my opinion and sense of fairness, it was 18 points gifted to Hamilton.

          Or shall we put it the other way? Max was also partly to blame for that incident (the FIA said so) so is at least partly to blame for the points he lost. His over-aggressive driving was always going to catch him out at some point.

          1. @gardenfella72 Where is the bias explain yourself. And I mean specifics.

            You are saying the exact same thing I did. He was partly to blame fair enough he lost points but not the -34 swing.

          2. @cobray

            But that’s the ‘unfair’ price Max pays for all the other ‘gains’ he’s made with his very aggressive driving style.

            Fact is and I don’t really understand why this is even debated – he could have prevented the crash.

            Note, I’ve been just as critical as Lewis in the past – when he’s needlessly had an avoidable accident. Suzuka 2008 is a classic example – totally over aggressive first lap. Here read this taken from an overview of the event

            “Hamilton’s McLaren teammate Heikki Kovalainen began from third, next to Alonso. At the first corner Hamilton braked late, forcing Räikkönen wide. Hamilton was later given a penalty, and was criticised by the British racing press for overaggressive driving

            Quite right as well. I too was shaking my head at him, wondering why he wanted to win the race on the first lap.

            But he’s learned from these tough lessons and so it is not unreasonable to ask Max to do the same.

            And yes. I know the incidents are different – but the principle, stay out of trouble if you can consciously avoid it, still applies.

          3. @cobray

            Where is the bias explain yourself. And I mean specifics.

            I’m sorry but an attitude like that doesn’t come close to deserving an answer. Have a good day.

    5. @KkrodD

      Had he have a worthy opponent

      So not so special sir, haven’t been that challenged at any point.

      So basically, you’re saying he’s better than all the other drivers. I agree. That’s why he’s a 7-time world champion.

      1. He’s saying he didn’t really have strong drivers against him in a similar car, most of us feel like vettel wasn’t at the same level, especially in 2018, when ferrari was actually strong, massa would be a top driver? Rosberg? Maybe better than people give him credit for, but not exactly strong enough to regularly challenge hamilton; verstappen, leclerc, norris now or alonso, schumacher etc. in the past are the drivers we’re talking about.

        1. Thank you. Didn’t need to reply.

  2. It must be weird for Hamilton to feel some competition for the first time in years.

    1. He had competition from Vettel in 2017, 2018 and the first half of 2019.

      I realise you have some kind amnesia, which means you forget anything in the years between 2017 and 2019, but reading your words, you’d think he’d not had a challenge since 2008.

      1. The competition from Vettel/Ferrari was only for the first half of the season. After the summer break the Mercedes was as dominant as before. And in 2019 there was no competition in the first half except may be in Bahrain. After the summer break Ferrari had a couple of good races until the TD for the engine was delivered, but where no threat to the championship anymore.

        1. Ferrari had the fastest car 2017, 2018 and 2019. Dont let your eyes fool you.

          1. Ferrari had a car that could match mercedes only in 2018, a bit behind especially engine wise in 2017 and nowhere near in 2019, was occasionally strong in quali and where engine is more important.

          2. How many excuses to justify the titles without opponents

    2. Toughest challenge maybe and still having the equal best car (compared to the RB), and being the most favoured person in the best team.

      Toughest battle? I wonder how Sir Lew would behave in a real battle.

      1. We’ve seen a glimps of that at Silverstone

      2. @KkrodD and Max isn’t the most favoured person in Red Bull, who have arguably had the best car all season?

        At least #44 doesn’t burn through team mates at the rate #33 does

  3. So having no competition makes the title(s) less meaningful?

    1. Void almost

  4. Unless he beats Max by 25 points or more (unsportsmanlike point from Silverstone), he won’t be a true 2021 champion in the eyes of many, too many. He will be a champion on the paper.
    25 points is not realistic, if not something extraordinary. If he eventually beats Max, that would be his hardest earned title, but not meaningful, undeserved.

    1. Shame he didn’t get those 25 points by winning at Monza. He got taken out of the race by a slower back marker.

      1. Slower back maker? That’s how you call Max? ….???
        Nobody knows what would happen, if no collision. Max could overtake him next corner, but that’s just worthless speculation. Regardless, 25-18 (assuming 2-nd place for Max that race)=7, which is not 25.

      2. shame he goofed up the start of the sprintrace first at Monza. Otherwise it would have been an easy Grand Chelem from pole, such dominant was the merc car that weekend. He would have driven into the distance and based 28pts btw not 25 . 25+3. and probably fastest lap too.

      3. A slow back maker? That’s something new.
        At best, if they finished, that would be 7 points difference, and it is not clear who would finish first.

        1. Three points, not seven as it was unlikely that Hamilton would beat Ricciardo. And only because of a botched pit stop due to new pitstop regulations thanks to Mercedes.

    2. Would that be the “many” Red Bull fans?

      1. Red Bull fans do not count? BTW I am not the one.

        1. And I’m not Merc BTW, just seeing a lot of driver bashing whilst conveniently dismissing the misgivings of others. For me both would be deserving champions, Max has been better most of the year but Hamilton’s Brazil performance levelled that.

          1. But he had a car that was so fast it belonged to another category!

    3. Lol, driver with the most points at the end wins.

      Meanwhile, the rest of the World couldn’t care less if you think the title is “undeserved”. LMFAO

  5. So this fight really is getting under his skin it seems.
    The interesting part is he, as is often the case, changes his view on the battle.
    So the sleepless nights still haunt him.
    Let’s see how things work out for both.
    And let’s hope he keeps it clean. After Silverstone that is a major concern for everyone.

    1. Aren’t tired of yourself? If Max drove as clean as Lewis did, Max was the champion already.

      1. if lewis didn’t do some costly mistakes (notably the 25pts that were on a silver plate in Baku, but there are more), Lewis was the champion already.

        1. Love the way Max’s nonsensical need to defend when not needed and hence protect his 33 point lead at Silverstone gets airbrushed out of those who feel he’s been faultless

        2. Are you a Max fan and/or against Lewis?
          My point is that Max overall had a better car and greater pointslead. Lewis backed out manny times this season, something I didn’t see Max doing.

          1. Overall better car is proven wrong.
            Greater points lead until Lewis used his signature move on him in Silverstone.

      2. Lewis didn’t drive clean in Silverstone and he got rightfully penalized for that. And there are more occasions in the past whete he wasn’t clean when under pressure. Notably in his fights with Rosberg.

    2. Cry more. If that’s possible.

      1. Listen to Lewis when things do not go as planned. Sir whinealot.

  6. @erikje Don’t be ridiculous. Move on. It gets old and boring and pathetic. Both drivers have had their fair share and Max can still clinch it this weekend.

    1. fool only yourself with ‘fair share’. Lewis made more errors, Max had more bad luck. measured over full season. Even Lewis fans would admit that. Like they would also admit the merc has been the better car on average by now measured over full season.

      1. I admit prior to Qatar on average Max has been better.

        However, unfortunately for him his major error was challenging Hamilton during that first Silverstone lap.

        Who does that, in that way, when they have a 33 point lead?

        1. You also forget he was conveniently taken out by Bottas in Hungary.

          1. Which of course was deliberate, I suppose!!

            Max pulls out of that corner, at Silverstone and he almost certainly has at last 18 points more than he has now. True or false?

            And please explain the sense of defending so aggressively when you’ve a 33 point lead and it’s the first lap.

          2. And Baku was not his error either.

    2. Erikje can’t help herself. She keeps posting her nonsense about Hamilton at every opportunity.

      1. The Hamilton move (c) is his own signature move to take out the competition.

        1. Just ask Albon. He lost more than a race because of it

  7. Lewis never ceases to be amazed with himself and his own abilities. He reminds me a bit of Apple product releases. Every time it’s the ‘greatest’ the ‘most important’ the most ‘life-changing.’

    That being said, this championship definitely would have a to more merit than all of the other ones won with Merc. The only one that ranks higher is 2008. But 14,15,17-20… those were cakewalks.

    1. 2016 should have been a cakewalk too. with only Barbie to beat.

      1. Imagine that! even a Barbie got him.

        1. @KkrodD reliability issues in Malaysia got him and his record against Barbie stands at 2-1 in his favour.

          1. @gardenfella72 – you all (conveniently) forget that Rosberg was hit by Bottas and practically started last in that race. Also, Hamilton should thank Rosberg for an undeserved Monaco win.

          2. @Sviat no, we’re well aware of those facts, thank you.

          3. @gardenfella72

            reliability issues in Malaysia got him and his record against Barbie stands at 2-1 in his favour.

            Not enough to be a good excuse because:

            you all (conveniently) forget that Rosberg was hit by Bottas and practically started last in that race. Also, Hamilton should thank Rosberg for an undeserved Monaco win.

            If he had his engine blown or something like that in three races of a season or more, like Verstappen had in 2017 and Ricciardo in 2018, then it would be a relevant factor.

    2. Explain what was “cakewalk” about 2018. Let’s remember that the Ferrari was the better car for most of the first two-thirds of that season.

      1. @banbrorace

        Explain what was “cakewalk” about 2018. Let’s remember that the Ferrari was the better car for most of the first two-thirds of that season.

        Even if it was, by the slimmest of the margins. And then Mercedes jumped ahead. And Vettel messed up. So in the last part of the season it was a cakewalk indeed.

    3. I would not rate 2008 above a potential WDC this year.
      I seem to remember that he was very inconsistent. He did beat a ferrari that might have been faster, but the opposition was not from Alonso, Vettel or Verstappen. A motivated Raikkonen or a Kubica in a developped car would have lofted that title imho.

      Title wins against – a very, very underrated – Rosberg in the same car are far more impressive to me.
      His spotless 2018 title also stands out for me. It had hints of Schumacher 1995.

      1. Mmm, the only similarity between 2018 and 1995 that I see is that the competitor driver was terrible, hill ended up so far behind with a fairly competitive car, same for vettel, with a car that really could’ve challenged mercedes.

        1. There definitely is a parallel between Hill 95 and Vettel 18.
          Both started off strong and seemed genuine contenders. Both seemed to crumble under pressure from the halfpoint of the season.

          But, like Benetton and Schumacher, Mercedes and Hamilton barely left any points on the table and performed close to perfection on the operational site.

    4. Greatest, most important etc lol very well said. He is no stranger to drama. And likes to use superlatives for his own achievements. It was extra hard on him you know, so hard. All the odds were always against him and so. How ignorant do you have to be if you cant even see your own luck that has been at you for almost a decade. Wow.

      1. Hey back off! Sir Lew is a great r@c3 c@rd driver

        1. He absolutely is. His talent is clear. Don’t like him as much when he is out of the car though.

  8. Considering how many championships he won against somewhat crippled competition – as in each of them there were one or two great drivers without top cars to stand a chance – it might very well be the case.

  9. Maybe, though perhaps ‘beating’ Verstappen over the final two races will largely consist of ‘avoid being crashed into by Verstappen.’

    1. Yeah, thats an often heard narrative. But no-one recalls that until Silverstone all was fine and Max was just doing his thing and really not so concerned with Lewis at all, after all he was doing fine. What do you expect from a driver afterwards? Clearly the boundaries have been stretched right there. And now blaming him for following the behavior. That has to be a joke.

      1. Michael (@freelittlebirds)
        3rd December 2021, 2:55

        @Mayrton wait, are you suggesting that Hamilton is the aggressor?

        1. The least you could admit he started the aggression in Silverstone.
          He broke the rules to stop the competition, until that moment the fight was fair.

          1. Have you been watching this season at all? Forgot about atleast 3 occassions Lewis avoiding crashes with Max? Oh I forgot, that’s hard racing…

      2. No, there is a better word for it than joke, its hypocracy.. Of the highest level

      3. LOL!! Even the stewards said that Max was partially at fault.

        But of course Alonso, Button, Hamilton, Vettel even Shui would be daft enough to risk losing a 33 point lead on the first lap, because they’ve done the same so many times themselves.

      4. Mayrton
        OK so you’re admitting the likelihood of Max adopting this strategy (presuming Hamilton/Mercedes are quicker in SA, which may not be the case) but offering an excuse for it, correct?

        I don’t see how that excuse works at all. Even at Silverstone prior to Copse, Max was closing the door with his ‘give way or we crash’ approach – usually lauded by fans of his ‘hard racing’ style. Even someone like Driver61 who agreed with the steward penalty (Hamilton ‘mostly at fault’) also agreed that Hamilton had to take up that challenge at some point, not back down, or it would just all be too easy for Verstappen to grab every corner aggressively. My own view remains that Copse was a racing incident. Hamilton had no obligation to stay stuck to the inside kerb as the steward decision suggested: he was sufficiently alongside to make a legitimate attempt to pass, meaning that Verstappen no longer had complete ‘ownership’ of the corner, meaning, in turn, he could and should have allowed more room through his steering and other inputs. He chose not to (clearly though aware of where Hamilton was) and the incident happened. I accept Hamilton may have misjudged slightly and caught understeer, but even so I don’t see how that is sufficient for him to take a majority blame when Verstappen actually had more track available to him to avoid crashing.

        Since then Verstappen has shown no inclination to back down, as you point out (Monza and the ridiculous Interlagos off-track lunge and weaving being examples). But it totally baffles me that you think that’s a new post-Silverstone approach from him given his years-long back history of such incidents in F1.

        1. Brilliant post. As I said earlier, Mayrton has to be writing these things for pure comedy value as there is no other reason.

        2. You are entitled to your view on the incident but I read too much assumptions in your narrative to be convinced. Lewis was clumsy in that corner because he panicked having seen the Sprint race pace of Max. There is little more to it. With his action he stretched the boundaries set so far in the season. You can’t expect your opponent to yield after that, you’ll have to live with what you started. No biggy at all, if he just would have owned up to it. Instead he decided (or Mercedes PR team) to use it as a mind game, put some more oil on the fire and launch the same trickery he pulled on Rosberg. Between 2007 and 2016 I was, well not his biggest, but a huge fan. But his Rosberg affair made me question him. Then Max came to stage and from the get go Lewis started his trickery again. I was so disappointed such a great champion let himself be known by just a kid. I still don’t understand why. Maybe its the killer instinct and the biggest lion won’t let anyone near. I just hoped he would be a bit more graceful and do no talking off track, just on it. And why cant he ever reflect on the luck he has had to have this car? Same story. Why does he need to uphold that flawless Hollywood image?

  10. Yup he knows that if he loses his legacy is up for discussion. Just a good driver with a great car.

    1. Indeed, exposed he will be. Thats why he stretched the boundaries of fair competition this year (Silverstone) and his team threw everything at it but the kitchen sink. Starting a character assault on Max. Getting in season changes to favor their car (tyres, wings, pitstops) and using engine regulation against the spirit of its invention. And still they only nearly beat that single other car amongst the 18, the one with the kid in it. The stress was clearly to much for Toto, who like Lewis had never been tested before. Well, we know now what they are made off. Pity. Kind of puts the past victories in perspective indeed.

      1. It’s so embarrassing watching Max fans scramble to manufacture up so many excuses. Of course it will be a hollow victory for Max by your own definition as he has no worthy competition.

        1. Excuses? So Lewis didnt bump off Max altering the fair racing the season had seen up until that point? So Mercedes did not request to alter the pitstops to stop losing seconds vs RedBull? So Mercedes did not get Pirelli to deliver them stiffer tyres to get to grip with their rear end? So Mercedes did not use the engine regulation to win the championship by throwing money at it? Come on. It has been a fraudulent appalling season. And on top of that they cheated with their wing which was Ferrari like brushed under the carpet by FIA. Teams like Mercedes give sports a bad name. They might as well just buy their championships. It has little to do with sports. And all the trickery works in favour of Liberty who will see proof that interfering with the championship to make it go down to the wire actually is appreciated by the fans. Reversed grids any-one, because that is next if you are not vocal about these misdoings.

        2. One thing though with the likes of Maytron, these boards are comedy gold – which is nearly as entertaining as the on track battle!!

    2. @maxv The sad bit is that your knowledge of Formula 1 is so basic, you can’t analyse driver racing styles and skills to observe who actually is a good or great driver just by how they handle the car in qualifying and over a race. Both Verstappen and Hamilton fall into the latter category.

      1. That is absolutely true. Lewis is a great driver. I am disputing his tally and fairness, never his talent. Just look at the analyses Peter Windsor makes from time to time about handling the total platform of the car etc. No argument there

        1. One thing is for sure.

          He’s the bestest r@ce c@rD driver.

        2. Well disputing his tally is kind of pointless: the tally is what it is. None of them were won unfairly to my knowledge. Fairness? I don’t see it either. When Hamilton is wheel to wheel with fair drivers, he drives fairly. Remember the track battles with Button, Webber, even Perez this year? Intense but fair (no contact). When there have been incidents they’re usually down to Hamilton presuming too much from the other driver’s positioning, awareness or good sense, not from a failure to give enough room (e.g. crashes for which he was blamed with Massa or more recently Verstappen and Albon x2). He’s usually identified by a fair driver by pundits, former drivers etc. Verstappen? I’d put him in the ‘hard racer’ category, sometimes to blame, sometimes not, until Interlagos, which I actually thought was weak racing, going way off track or weaving manically to defend are a sign of weakness, neither involving driver skill.

          1. I agree on the Brasil thing. That was not ok.

    3. More comedy gold!!

      Only in your mind and the local social media group that you belong to, is his “legacy” in question.

      Unfortunately, it’s not obsessives like us who decide on legacy – it’s the ‘normal’ world and he’s already got that status. Losing to a great driver like Max isn’t going to harm it. After all, I don’t remember Shui’s greatness been questioned when Alonso beat him.

  11. It’s always amazing to me how anything Hamilton says attracts frustrated haters on this site. English is not my native language, but in this case, it should be clear that Hamilton was asked about the question. It was not something he said spontaneously.

    What if he says ‘NO’? Well, I bet it would attract the same fanatic haters that are criticizing him here, but for other made up reasons.

    In this case, saying YES to the question means he just respects Max and Red Bull. Thats the way it should be.

    I´m not criticizing Keith here, but I wouldn’t structure a headline implying that Lewis was making a statement, while he was just answering a question.

    1. It’s actually mentioned in the article: “Asked whether denying Verstappen the title…”, so absolutely no problem with Keith’s approach on this one.

  12. Hard to disagree. The Red Bull has arguably been the better car on on balance of things this season and Max is just incredible. He reminds me a bit of 2005/6 spec Alonso. It’ll be pretty amazing if Lewis snatches this one. 2008 was great but Massa was no Verstappen.

  13. I suspect the corn flakes Lewis had for breakfast this morning were his favourite too.

  14. Yeah Lew, but won’t.

  15. Hopefully, it won’t happen. Personally, I don’t think it will be a truly meritous trophy since on 2 occasions VER lost many points because of him and his team mate (and not to mention the lenient penalties), points which would have guaranteed VER the title before the final race.

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