In the round-up: Sergio Perez doesn’t understand why Lewis Hamilton escaped a penalty for overtaking him off the track during the Singapore Grand Prix.
In brief
Perez says Hamilton passed him off-track
Hamilton overtook Perez on the outside of turn seven after the race restarted following a Safety Car period. The Mercedes driver put all four wheels beyond the white line at the exit of the corner, but the stewards did not consider his pass illegal.
Perez believes the move should not have been allowed to stand. “To me it was clear that Lewis just [braked] really late and went off the circuit and gained an advantage,” he said. “Something that we’ve got to understand going forward.”
Sargeant didn’t realise wing was stuck under car
Logan Sargeant admitted he didn’t realise he had dragged his broken front wing back to the pits after crashed at turn eight during the Singapore Grand Prix.“I had no idea,” he said. “They told me towards the end of lap it was under the car. I could feel something was wrong, almost like the car wanted to lift off. So I was just taking it pretty easy.”
He admitted the error was “my mistake” as he braked too late for the corner as his tyres were wearing down. “We were getting close to boxing and I pushed my braking point a couple of metres too far, locked the inside front and I was committed to the corner.
“I was lucky to get away with just the front wing. It’s a shame, a small mistake, really costly again. But I gave it absolutely everything I had to the end to try and recover and I’m proud of those two last stints.”
Red Bull’s win record “insanity”
Red Bull team principal Christian Horner said the new record set by his team of winning 15 races in a row is “insanity”. They broke the previous record of 11, set by McLaren in 1988.
“To win 15 in a row is insanity when you consider that the variance of circuits that we’ve come across, the conditions, et cetera,” said Horner. “It’s the first time since I think 2018 that we weren’t in Q3 yesterday.
“So it’s been a hell of a run for the team that we always knew was going to come to a stop at some point. It’s been an incredible year, one that we’re all very proud of. And hopefully we can be back up at the sharp end next weekend.”
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Motor racing links of interest:
'After the new statement from the former F1 boss, Massa told the reporter that 'Ecclestone only decided to say something after he saw the seriousness of our case.''
Brilliant Carlos! Red sky at night at Marina Bay (Ferrari)
John Elkann, president of Ferrari: 'We can all be very happy with today’s win. Congratulations to the whole Ferrari team, at the track and back in Maranello starting with Carlos who was so very quick over the course of the whole weekend.'
Jody Egginton: 'Liam did a fantastic job of managing his tyres, making moves where possible and returning consistent lap times. He was defending against several cars and performed some strong moves to keep in the points and bring the car home for very well-deserved first F1 points.'
Points snatched away after late collision (Williams)
Dave Robson: 'With a new front wing and a new set of tyres, Logan then had a very lonely 2nd stint before the VSC gave him the chance to be more aggressive. However, the earlier damage meant that his car simply wasn’t good enough to avoid the high tyre degradation.'
Guenther Steiner: 'Obviously, we got a little bit lucky in the end when Russell hit the wall, but the guys were hanging in there to bring the cars back in the best position they could, and it worked out.'
'We chose to make some extensive changes on Zhou’s car to explore more setup options, and it worked, bringing more performance for the race. Zhou’s performance was solid, he was in contention for the points but the late VSC jeopardised his race.'
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Lambiase: "Max I will say it again: There is no merit at this stage in being within one second of Ocon. Sainz still doing 40.3s. We've been here before. We've been hurt before. But the effective V-ratio as we've seen before is very low."#F1 #SingaporeGP
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Verstappen: "By who did Russell go into the barrier?"
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Verstappen: "Oh, okay…"#F1 #SingaporeGP
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After a season of one team winning every race, I loved having the intrigue of wondering how the fight for the lead was going to turn out over so much of that. Such a crushing disappointment that the DRS train ended the fight with five laps to go. #F1 #SingaporeGP
— Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) September 17, 2023
Why do Sky keep saying it's Sainz's first win for Ferrari? Who do they think his other win was for? Genuinely puzzled. #F1
— Alan Baldwin (@alanbaldwinf1) September 17, 2023
Perez's penalty is another example of how #F1 defaulting to a 5s penalty for almost everything means drivers in good cars running out of position are borderline incentivised to put midfielders into the wall.
Like, it was objectively good for Perez's race that he punted Albon.
— Valentin Khorounzhiy (@vkhorounzhiy) September 17, 2023
What a fab GP today. Got to know Sainz during 2012 F3 season. Lovely fella and so was his engineer Jose… who now works with Norris at McLaren! Does that make it a @RodinCarlin 1-2?!
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Comment of the day
Lance Stroll’s crash on Saturday shows how susceptible current F1 cars are to ‘bottoming’, says PeterG:
It’s basically been all the same problems and complaints that were around in the 1980s when ground effects were last used in F1.
Other categories that use ground effects such as IndyCar don’t have as complex floors so they aren’t producing the same huge amounts of downforce and been spec chassis some of the negatives ground effects introduces can be better managed.
IndyCar for example altered the shape of the floor and cut holes in it when the increased ground effect implementation on the DW12 saw an increase in cars getting airborne in high speed spins.
PeterG
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Bullfrog (@bullfrog)
18th September 2023, 0:07
Apart from the first 59 laps of the race.
HAL
18th September 2023, 6:53
He was very quick in the first 59 laps… considering how much tire management he was doing. And also relative to the other 18 drivers since none of them could put on a move (not even try one).
HAL
18th September 2023, 6:53
He was very quick in the first 59 laps… considering how much tire management he was doing. And also relative to the other 18 drivers since none of them could put on a move (not even try one).
SteveP
18th September 2023, 8:07
10 sec a lap slower than Qualy seems a bit excessive for just tyre management.
That said, it did make for an interesting race with the closeness of cars in the backed up train.
Ferdinand
18th September 2023, 7:58
I have to agree there. The race was very uneventful apart from the last few laps. I would rate it a 5 but that is also coloured by the fact I feel street circuits have no place in F1.
Dantera87
18th September 2023, 21:37
Meaning he wasn’t fast, as in… slow? He was as fast as he needed and if he was slow, then why didn’t Georgie boy overtake him?
Ajaxn
19th September 2023, 14:49
Russell radioed that Sainz was managing his tires, yet did nothing about it. Had he put presssure on Sainz the car would either have over heated or their tires would have gone off sooner. Instead he observed but did nothing.
melanos
20th September 2023, 1:14
JM Fangio was the best and his motto was, win by going as slow as possible. Carlos took a hint from that. Going fast needlessly is not the way to win. I reckon Kimi could have won 3 WDCs by following El Chueco’s advice, but got 1 instead.
Jim from US (@jimfromus)
18th September 2023, 0:54
Was waiting for the replay for the HAM – PER incident but it was never shown and it was never investigated. Was it missed by stewards, was HAM straddling the kerb, or did PER send him off?
Mach1 (@mach1)
18th September 2023, 0:58
My interpretation was that the move was done, so going wide was immaterial to the move being completed or it having an impact on the outcome.
Bob
18th September 2023, 1:06
@mach1 Like in Bahrain 2021?
Doesn’t matter if the move was done, someone can always say that if they slowed down more to avoid breaking track limits, then they wouldn’t have had the speed to make the overtake count.
Yellow Baron
18th September 2023, 1:27
By done I assume he means ahead. From the only angle we saw it looked that way too. Also verstappen wasn’t ahead when he went off in Bahrain that year
O'Ray
18th September 2023, 8:40
The race steward didnt investigate it because the team told Max to give back the position, Max wanted to continue driving and also the pass was completed off track, Lewis had completed the pass before the turn.
Coventry Climax
18th September 2023, 17:36
But the overtake was completed (if it even actually was) due to a speed too high to still make the corner.
Chicken/egg issue, where, when stewarding were fair, poultry issues would be penalised anyway.
I’m by no means a fan of Perez, but in this case he’s absolutely got the right to know why it wasn’t even investigated – which seems all he’s asking here.
It’s like Alonso stated before, on first lap ‘escape routes’ (paraphrasing, but still): If they’re allowed to do this, so am I; watch me.
RH
18th September 2023, 8:50
The move wasn’t complete. It was just a bad call by the stewards and RB didn’t see any point in protesting anyways as Ham would have caught them anyways.
DaveW (@dmw)
18th September 2023, 1:22
My sense is that the move was done and Hamilton was doing his utmost to not get hit on the exit and went over the curb. It was somewhat clumsy but not part of the pass.
Also this race with Verstappen struggling with set up was a good chance for Perez to figure it out and shine but he was lagging as usual and had a messy race.
Is anyone else kind of annoyed that twitters name change now means that there are now several “x”s on the top of the post and you can’t tell immediately which does what? Really bad design.
SteveP
18th September 2023, 7:59
It’s almost like the change decision was made by an idiot whose only claim to fame is having lots of money.
Coventry Climax
18th September 2023, 17:40
I don’t use it, but as far as I know it’s now, very unpractically, called ‘X, formerly known as Twitter’.
SteveP
19th September 2023, 8:00
Me neither, but calling it “that social media site owned by a pillock” leaves room for doubt, especially since Trump bought himself some kit and called it Pravda Social (Sorry, forgot to translate part of that)
Facts&Stats
18th September 2023, 9:24
I’d be as rich as Musk if I had a dime for every time I clicked on the X thinking it would close an annoying pop-up ad.
But this might be a genius at work; create web traffic by deceit. A bit like this site editing the article headlines.
Coventry Climax
18th September 2023, 17:43
That’s not a genius, it’s a con man.
SteveP
18th September 2023, 8:13
As mach1 commented, the move was pretty much done, but a late braking Perez went out to the edge, avoiding the collision put Hamilton on the kerb.
Thereafter, it’s 6 or two threes – same result. i.e. first car to get traction takes the leading role.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
18th September 2023, 12:12
@jimfromus Looked very similar to Stroll’s pass on Bottas in Hungary to me, which also wasn’t investigated. As far as I’m concerned if you can’t complete a pass within the boundaries of the track it shouldn’t be allowed to stand, but clearly the stewards believe otherwise.
SteveP
19th September 2023, 8:14
This goes back to the old chestnut of track limits.
People say it’s difficult to police, but pressure sensors have existed for years and if the line with pressure sensors, embedded like mini cats-eyes, is put at on a path that should never be touched by a car on a legal trajectory then that’s a red light indicating should be investigated/penalised. Where technology really comes into play is if they start with some cricket DRS style predictive tracking. Should be easier than cricket/tennis though as F1 is only two dimensions – mostly :)
Meanwhile, the stewards do what they do, and we debate.
melanos
20th September 2023, 1:21
After the T1 pass on Russell and Lando, Sir was already ahead of Lando when going off track. Which is immaterial because once Sir braked so late there was no way to stay on track. So it was a perfect decision by the stewards to force the switch with Lando (btw it did not show on TV, they were replaying the start)
What does not make sense is that when the same fast one was pulled on Checo, the stewards had nothing to object.
AJ
18th September 2023, 0:58
because he braked just as late and pushed him off. lol
Mark Zastrow (@markzastrow)
18th September 2023, 1:22
What DRS taketh away, it also giveth. Today, DRS saved the outcome from being a foregone conclusion and enabled a brilliant display of management from Sainz.
Euro Brun (@eurobrun)
18th September 2023, 7:52
Indeed, one man’s “Crushing Disappointment” is another man’s tactical brilliance. Russell would definitely have jumped Norris had Sainz not deliberately given Norris DRS.
DRS is not new, and if a driver can’t work out how best to play the system, then that’s their own fault.
I remember how brilliant Albon was in Spa that year where he deliberately held back just going into the T1 detection point, to guarantee himself the overtake, rather than being over taken. Chef’s kiss!
bernasaurus (@bernasaurus)
18th September 2023, 9:32
@eurobrun I do enjoy a cheeky lift just at the detection point, I’m more surprised that drivers fall for it still – like you say, DRS has been around a while.
My only thing is that surely we can’t be too far away from two competitive drivers both doing their utmost to not cross over at speed and then a third driver arriving at the scene.
Somewhere like the run down to the hairpin at Montreal, that detection point is high speed, narrow and slightly blind. If two drivers drastically slowed, the driver(s) could end up with nowhere to go other than do their best Kubica impression.
I guess the argument against is that DRS has been around more than a decade and it hasn’t happen (unless I’ve missed something).
ben (@dubaemon)
18th September 2023, 11:43
I don’t think it happened but it did get over silly with verstappen and leclerc at some point / although it was a great display of using the detection point. Dont ask me for the race i m useless at that.
They were a long way from anyone else so it was reasonably d
Safe to slow down that much.
They did get some backlash about it so it sets a precedent for not abusing of it.
JohnEver (@johnever)
18th September 2023, 15:16
@dubaemon
Saudi Arabia?
But they did it Bahrain as well
and in Austria you could see it too
Coventry Climax
18th September 2023, 17:48
Going slower to have an advantage.
That sounds ridiculously wrong in motorracing, like something the FiA would invent. Oh wait..
ben (@dubaemon)
19th September 2023, 22:45
Haha, i dont think the brains at fia ever imagined drs could be used this way!
Nobody did.
But it still creates a show and actually there is more thrill in using drs in a defensive way than a boring drs pass.
@JohnEver
Yes, that one, thanks !
roadrunner (@roadrunner)
18th September 2023, 10:19
Hmm I don’t know. Where is the difference? Without DRS for any car the Mercedes speed offset in comparison with Norris would have been the same as it was with DRS for all of them.
melanos
20th September 2023, 1:25
But obviously the point is that without Carlos gaming the system, Lando would have had no DRS while George of course would have had it anyway, and Lando would have been a sitting duck.
BasCB (@bascb)
18th September 2023, 12:03
Exactly, for me this was one of those situations where clever use of the energy deployment (Norris) and use of the DRS to give Norris enough top speed to stay ahead on the straights (by Sainz) gave us this long battle.
If not for that, we would just have gotten a Mercedes 1-2 with 3 laps of cruising to the flag.
Yellow Baron
18th September 2023, 1:30
“Perez appeared to be several car lengths behind the Williams over the Anderson Bridge approaching the braking zone but attempted s pass up the inside. As they reached the apex, the pair collided, sending Albon into the barriers”
“To me it was clear that Lewis just [braked] really late and went off the circuit and gained an advantage,” he said. “Something that we’ve got to understand going forward.”
All the above sounds like Max’s doings
SuperIU
18th September 2023, 5:47
And received a 5 second penalty and 1 licese point. The clash with Albon doesen’t mean Ham move doesen’t deserve a penalty too
Jere (@jerejj)
18th September 2023, 5:52
Perhaps stewards calculated he didn’t gain a lasting advantage by maintaining a position that way because not everything is necessarily always clear-cut.
Sargeant simply didn’t reverse long enough to avoid front wing getting stuck underneath, although he isn’t the only one.
Savage exchange between VER-GP.
DRS train didn’t end the battle, but given the general overtaking difficulty, even driving around in trains can be exciting because something can always happen.
Red Andy (@red-andy)
18th September 2023, 8:19
I do agree that sometimes the 5s punishment doesn’t fit the crime. It doesn’t seem right that you can get the same penalty for missing the pit entrance (an innocuous error, which in the circumstances was not unsafe) as you can for crashing into another driver and ruining his race. I said the same thing after Monza, although surprisingly the objections then were a bit more muted.
melanos
20th September 2023, 1:27
However people are asking for more blood against Fred
slowmo (@slowmo)
18th September 2023, 9:07
It’s clear if you look at the shot after the corner that Perez did not leave a cars width on the outside of the corner which is part of the rules whether you agree with it or not. Hamilton has been penalised for not leaving space before now and this time it’s Perez turn. Ironically if Perez had braked sufficiently to not push Hamilton wide on the exit then he’d have not been even close to Hamilton at the apex.
He was also never going to keep Hamilton behind him and he came across as pretty shameful whinging in the one race this year he’s not had a car he can just blast past the opposition in the DRS zones.
David BR (@david-br)
18th September 2023, 10:11
@slowmo +!
I really dislike Perez’s attitude in general, one of the weakest racers on the grid, zero competitiveness in the fastest car on the grid, now 151 points behind his teammate (6 races worth of points) because he’s simply that bad, forever blaming anything other than himself for his own failures and never owning up to his own, and forever moaning about Hamilton. Obsessed. In a race where he ploughed into another driver. In this case Hamilton is obviously staying well clear of Perez: he could have made the pass on track but was wary of Perez not leaving a car width’s room.
Which like you observe, he didn’t.
Ben
18th September 2023, 11:02
+1 there’s no doubt that Perez puts up so much more fight against Hamilton than any other driver. He’s probably gets a bonus if he impacts Hamilton’s race because there’s no other reason to be so obsessed with a driver so much better than him. So poor from Perez, but sadly I’ve come to expect nothing else.
I hope RedBull drop him and give Lawson a chance. Tsnoda isn’t the future of RedBull, neither is Perez.
David BR (@david-br)
18th September 2023, 12:38
Or indeed Ricciardo. I think Lawson bumping Verstappen out of Q3 must have had quite an impact. I haven’t seen enough to really have much idea about him as a driver, though. Perez reminds me a lot of Massa: in a team competing directly at the front with Hamilton, a more talented teammate, poor at racing (though Perez is better at defending than Massa ever was) and a lot of animosity towards Hamilton that seems to come from somewhere else.
Michael (@freelittlebirds)
18th September 2023, 14:01
@david-br yeah, Perez was being way too aggressive with Lewis and Lewis was simply trying to avoid contact.
I do agree that Perez is sounding really weak – he should just focus on his drive and do better.
Xavi
20th September 2023, 4:35
-3
“not leaving a car width’s room” neither did Albon nor Tsunoda, but your hate clouds your mind, sadly
Both drivers brake late, both have the right to do so and drive as they please, however the one that ends out of track limits gets awarded by stewards and some people here. smh
JohnEver (@johnever)
18th September 2023, 15:33
@slowmo
Perez didn’t push Hamilton wide… I just checked the replays and onboards
Hamilton brakes way later, Perez could never push Hamilton wide: when Perez hit the apex his front tires were just in front of Hamiltons rear-tires, with a lot of space between them. This is because Hamilton took a very wide line, whether this was because he carried too much speed or just tried to be save from Perez, I don’t know.
I even think that Perez wasn’t wrong for asking for a review… though a penalty would have been way to harsh in my opinion, because of the circumstances… the speed difference was way too big, Perez should have just let Hamilton go, and worry about his own pace
mystic one (@mysticus)
18th September 2023, 17:09
He was frustrated with his own performance and the car, and was unnecessarily racing lewis for position, which redbull and their side kicks were doing for far too long in the past and in this race. What is worse was in quali decision to not penalise max probably played a role on this too. However lewis already done the overtake and perez was racing a ghost. Not sure why perez still insisting on doing dirty laundry for rb when they don’t give a dime about him and possibly already fired behind the doors.
melanos
20th September 2023, 1:30
That the speed difference was too big and the overtake would have happened later makes no difference. The pass was foul because there was no way to complete it without going off track, and should have been penalized, at the very least forcing the switch back,
osnola
18th September 2023, 10:47
That was the brilliance Sainz showed. He was the director of that train and Norris knew very well not to attack Sainz and giving up his podium by doing so
Lewis lucked into a podium. He kept pressure on Russell and instead of choosing the team game collect as many points as possible, he went for his own ego.
MadMax (@madmax)
18th September 2023, 11:02
Usual distorted view of yours. Ham was a teamplayer, but Merc should have swapped positions, with Ham having the better chances to overtake Norris and Sainz.
BasCB (@bascb)
18th September 2023, 12:07
I seriously doubt there was much scope to change positions @Madmax. Had they done that, it would have given Norris about a lap extra to recover, stabelize. And an extra lap where Hamilton would have to first catch back up to the back of Norris, using more of his tyres only to end up in the same position Russel already was in.
Sure, it might have meant Mercedes got more points out of it, since Russel would likely not have crashed, so they would have bagged 3-4 instead of just 3. But it would not have increased the chance of taking that win.
MadMax (@madmax)
18th September 2023, 12:16
Ham was held up by Russell for several laps after catching up. Had Russell moved over right then, I bet Ham would have had much better chances to overtake both, Norris and Sainz.
Gigantor (@kbdavies)
18th September 2023, 13:06
Sorry, but how long have you been watching F1?? 🤣🤣🤣
melanos
20th September 2023, 1:33
Disagree. It was not luck but a blatant aggression against a teammate that paid off
Xavi
20th September 2023, 4:41
and MERC is grateful and honored that one of their cars who was in front of Lewis didn’t finish nor score any points, thanks for the blatant aggression. Who cares about points and position in the WCC when blatant aggressions against their own team are as important as likes and subscriptions on social media, right?
MadMax (@madmax)
18th September 2023, 11:03
crybaby anti ham fan opinion
Phil Norman (@phil-f1-21)
18th September 2023, 11:04
I too am not sure I agree with Keith on the DRS train. I didn’t think it was a crushing disappointment.
Without DRS in this instance, the two Mercs on much fresher tyres, would probably have just driven past Lando and Carlos. I guess they may have had a little battle between them, George and Lewis I mean.
I thought it was quite entertaining. Saniz played a careful game of jeopardy with DRS by letting Norris catch him by just enough to allow him to get DRS. He knew and Lando knew, that they had as much to lose as each other. And upon first catching the front two, for a couple of laps, George definitely had a chance to get past Lando and get to Carlos.
I think it was only a crushing disappointment if you wanted George or Lewis to win so I think the comment is showing a little bias?
melanos
20th September 2023, 1:40
What? Bias for some Merc driver? Keith???? Unheard of!!!!!
But least the comment was on twitter and not in RaceFans
Matthijs (@matthijs)
18th September 2023, 11:04
About the Keith Collantine tweet:
Genuine question. When every driver has DRS, then effectively nobody has an advantage. How does the DRS train kill the fight more than a scenario where nobody has DRS?
The Edge (@the-edge)
18th September 2023, 11:10
@matthijs @keithcollantine
I’d like to hear the answer to that too!
Red Andy (@red-andy)
18th September 2023, 11:23
I agree. I also think the spectacle we got, of the two Mercedes drivers trying to pressure Sainz/Norris into a mistake for several laps, was infinitely more interesting than Russell and Hamilton simply breezing past with DRS, as they did with Leclerc.
Phil Norman (@phil-f1-21)
18th September 2023, 11:48
+ 1
BasCB (@bascb)
18th September 2023, 12:07
Defenitely, yeah.
Coventry Climax
18th September 2023, 17:57
Nope. The car up front doesn’t have it.
And hence it’s being punished for managing to get in that position. Can only be FiA logic.
Doggy
20th September 2023, 1:20
That is clever observation Matthijs.
If anything DRS kept the race alive.
The Edge (@the-edge)
18th September 2023, 11:12
Never mind Perez/Hamilton… I’d like to know how LeClerc escaped penalty for un-sportsman-like conduct, when he backed the pack up under the safety car
slowmo (@slowmo)
18th September 2023, 14:12
He drives a Ferrari, they get a free pass along with RBR.
MichaelN
18th September 2023, 16:42
They allow for some of this, provided it’s not taken to an extreme.
It’d be better if they didn’t, but Leclerc apparently played it by the way it’s been enforced.
SteveP
18th September 2023, 19:56
I did wonder about that. I know there’s a 10 car length limitation, but if I recall it was nearer to a 10 second gap he produced.
Surely the stewards keep an eye open for such things, and the other teams didn’t complain.
melanos
20th September 2023, 1:47
No doubt they would have, had Charles gone over the limit, so we can be pretty sure he did not.
Adam (@rocketpanda)
18th September 2023, 11:47
Hey that’s okay Perez, how about we give him a 5sec penalty like you got for punting a Williams out of the points? Oh, he still keeps 3rd? Fair, right?
dot_com (@dot_com)
18th September 2023, 13:30
The system needs to be changed as quickly as possible. A five second penalty has absolutely no effect on a front running team – but taking Albon out of a potential P8 is a massive blow for Williams. It’s basically giving them license to do whatever they want, so long as they have a few laps to scamper up the road and cover it.
MadMax (@madmax)
18th September 2023, 12:25
Perez kicking Tsunoda out of the race should already have beeb 5s penalty. Ok, thats intra-family anyways, but should be penalized anyways. Then the ramming of Albon out of the points was more than 5s.
But Perez has nothing to state, but to ask for a penalty for an opponent, who just moved his car out of this bully’s way. He should better invest his energy to improve his driving.
MichaelN
18th September 2023, 13:03
“Why did Hamilton take avoiding action”, asks driver whose bumping ruined two of his competitors’ races.
This guy…
melanos
20th September 2023, 1:49
One’s bad does not make another’s bad good
dot_com (@dot_com)
18th September 2023, 13:27
Checo has no right to be complaining about being passed off track, after the way he barged Albon off track. The way he is ‘racing’ this year is making him look like a complete rookie.
Coventry Climax
18th September 2023, 18:05
That’s a remark I can not back.
Even though Russia commits warcrimes multiple times a day, we’d still like to see it investigated if Ukraine would resort to such practice, even if only once. So Russia has the right to complain, should it occur.
You may not like it, but each and every occasion should be looked at separately, so even a master thief has the right to go to the police if his house is being robbed.
F1sauber (@f1sauber)
19th September 2023, 0:14
If Perez really wants to know he only has to ask the same stewards who cleared Verstappen on Saturday over three investigations!!
PT
19th September 2023, 19:13
Lewis got away with that one – inconsistent stewarding.
melanos
20th September 2023, 1:51
At least Sir did not get away with the L1T1 double pass that could only be completed by going off track.
To my huge surprise, I must say.