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Did Raikkonen deserve to lose his Ferrari seat?

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For the second time in his career, Kimi Raikkonen is about to become an ex-Ferrari driver. Has the team made a cool-headed decision about his lack of performance in recent seasons, or has sentimentality again led them to drop their most recent champion too hastily?

After all, the team didn’t need to sever Raikkonen’s contract early in 2009 when they hired Fernando Alonso. They could have kept him on at Felipe Massa’s expense. But that would have meant making the brutal call to drop Massa while he was out of action due to injury.

Similarly, there were rumours Raikkonen’s mid-season run of form this year, including podiums in all bar one of the last six races, might grant him a stay of execution at the Scuderia. New CEO Louis Carey Camilleri, who described Raikkonen as a “dear friend”, indicated at Monza the decision was yet to be taken.

But Camilleri’s predecessor Sergio Marchionne, who died unexpectedly earlier this year, was a strong supporter of Charles Leclerc. His preference for Leclerc to get the drive has been posthumously honoured. And few would dispute Leclerc, one of this year’s star drivers, deserves a chance in a front-running team.

But that doesn’t mean Raikkonen deserved to lose his seat. And Ferrari’s typically stark press releases – the statement announcing Leclerc ran to just 21 words – offered no justification for replacing the 20-time grand prix winner with a 14-time grand prix starter.

Raikkonen’s record since he returned to Ferrari in 2014 may offer a few clues. Has he performed better than Massa, his predecessor?

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Qualifying scores
Felipe Massa1757Fernando Alonso
Kimi Raikkonen316Fernando Alonso
Kimi Raikkonen2251Sebastian Vettel

For all his qualities as a driver – and despite the fact 10 days ago he set the quickest lap Formula 1 has ever seen – you wouldn’t call Raikkonen a one-lap specialist. Race pace has always been his greater strength. So it wouldn’t be a surprise if he hadn’t quite measured up to his team mate in terms of qualifying pace.

In that respect there was little surprise when he returned alongside Alonso in 2014 and was hammered in qualifying much as Massa had been.

In terms of the qualifying score line, Raikkonen has fared considerably better against Vettel. In 2016, when Ferrari prioritised taking advantage of the 2017 rules change, he even beat Vettel over the full season.

But the trend has reversed since then. What we’re seeing this year is more like the situation Raikkonen was in alongside Alonso four years ago. He may have started ahead of Vettel in two of the last three races but this is very much against the run of play for the season so far.

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Raikkonen’s ultimate contribution to Ferrari’s championship results is best measured in terms of the number of points he has scored. In no year since he returned to the team has he been their top scorer, but on the face of it he has done better than his predecessor.

Fernando Alonso, Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 2013
Did Massa have a tougher team mate than Raikkonen?
Massa scored half Alonso’s points haul in his final three seasons. While Raikkonen did slightly worse in his first season back, from 2015 alongside Vettel he has

But this begs an obvious question: Is Raikkonen doing better than Massa, or is he being held to a less exacting standard by going up against Vettel instead of Alonso over the last four seasons? The numbers from 2014 make this a compelling argument. If Vettel hadn’t squandered so many points this year – in Baku, Paul Ricard, Hockenheim and Monza – it would be harder to make a case in favour of Raikkonen.

Another interpretation is that Ferrari is a team which has historically favoured one of its drivers more strongly than the other, most famously during the Michael Schumacher era. Does the fact Ferrari hasn’t won a race with both its drivers in a season since 2008 indicate they haven’t putting equal effort behind both its cars?

The bottom line is that since he returned to Ferrari in 2014 Raikkonen has had a race-winning car in three out of five seasons yet hasn’t scored a single win. However favourably we look upon his efforts, and recalling how easily he might have won in Monaco and Hungary last year, it’s hard to get past that stark fact.

It’s to Raikkonen’s credit that instead of hanging up his helmet he’s chosen to race on at Sauber. As his tenure at Lotus showed, give Raikkonen an unpolitical, no-nonsense team and a chassis he can work with, and he can deliver his very best. That may well be better than what we’ve seen of him since 2014.

Meanwhile Leclerc will move the other way, to Ferrari in Raikkonen’s place, and how he fares against Vettel will give further insight into whether Raikkonen truly has been hard done by.

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86 comments on “Did Raikkonen deserve to lose his Ferrari seat?”

  1. I think this demotion says a lot more about Seb than it does about Kimi.
    While Kimi has had a better season than normal (especially given the fact that he’s had the older spec engine) I think if Seb had been performing to the level that they were expecting then they wouldn’t feel the need to hire Leclerc so soon.
    For Seb it is now or never with Ferrari as I fear it will be a repeat of 2014 for him next year.

    1. Exactly. Ferrari have realized that their “#1 and #2 driver” philosophy requires them to actually have a #1 driver. If you employ 2 number 2’s, you’re going to lose titles even when you have the best car.

      1. Yeah. Seb is a typical number 2. Ok.

        1. @db01 @magon4 it’s really unbelievable what we’re reading these days.

          We all agree, Vettel makes mistakes etc etc. But how on this Earth one can put him and Kimi on the same level? Raikkonen name has obviously become bigger than his results. I’m tired of repeating, I saw Kimi’s last win in a black and white TV. He’s performing better this year but still is far from being a title contender. In the last seasons, the only stat in favour of Kimi vs Seb is that he qualified ahead 1 more time than his teammate in 2016.

          Look at these charts (source: Racefans.net): https://i.imgur.com/ZxNVGMg.png

          I posted these on Reddit and still, people were like “it’s because Kimi had a worse car”. Come on guys, Kimi is fast but 1) only when he’s in the mood and 2) not fast enough to be WC.

          Raikkonen was our yesterday’s opportunity to clinch the Championship. Today, our best opportunity to beat Mercedes and Hamilton is Vettel, not Raikkonen nor anyone else on the grid (apart from Alonso probably). Tomorrow, we hope it will be Leclerc.

          1. @m-bagattini
            I think Seb is better than Kimi although at the start of the season Kimi was very close on quali pace and threw away pole at Baku. While I think Seb is better than Kimi and for what it’s worth Massa too, but he’s not on the same level as top tier drivers like Fernando and Lewis which is why they are giving Leclerc a chance.
            Seb’s race pace though has been very good though and is stronger than his qualifying though. The gap there is significantly better. I can’t think of a race where Kimi has had the edge on him.

          2. You still had a black and white TV in 2013?
            I mean, I know it’s a long time ago, and I agree, Kimi hasn’t won a race since his return to Ferrari, with 1 and 2/3 seasons with a race winning car, and it’s not because of Ferrari preferring Vettel, Kimi just hasn’t been up to it. And if you can’t win a race with a car that’s capable of it, you shouldn’t be in that car. Simple.

          3. I sympathize with you and fully agree your comments. Kimi is good but lacks the consistency and speed when it counts. You make it more difficult on yourself if you try to win races from anywhere other than the front row. I am a Ham/Merc fan but as you said – there is no on the grid that can bring the fight properly to them apart from Vet/Ferrari. Vettel is a great driver who has made some mistakes recently but prior to that he was never known as one to do so and has 4 WC to proof it. Ludicrous to consider him a no 2. driver.

      2. First time I’ve ever seen a four-time consecutive World Drivers Champion with more wins than all but two drivers described as a #2.

        1. @AmericanF1 you’re extremely lucky, I’m reading this lie everywhere since Monza

          1. Don’t worry. If Vettel wins the next race, all fans will be saying he’s a good driver again. The problem is that fans nowadays ONLY make reference to the previous race to rate a driver’s skills without looking at their racing record from previous races/seasons. Same with Hamilton, in China, everyone was losing their heads on how he’s an “average” driver just because he was off pace that weekend only.

          2. @lebz The best example of that was Germany this year. The fans were losing their minds over the problems Hamilton had in qualifying to Vettel in the race. It was at that moment I realized that social media was a mistake.

        2. AmericanF1, it is a rather hyperbolic description, although there are some drivers who won multiple championships and aren’t necessarily held in a great light – Nelson Piquet might have three titles, but he’s not necessarily looked on that favourably and quite a few drivers who won fewer titles are often ranked ahead of him.

          As others have noted, the recent clash in Monza, on the back of some of his errors earlier this season, has probably also biased the perception of him and resulted in people being more critical, much as has happened with other drivers.

          That said, it probably is true that the promotion of Leclerc to Ferrari in Kimi’s place is more about Vettel than it is about Kimi. There were reports that Marchionne felt that Vettel was perhaps getting a little too comfortable with having Kimi in the other seat, so Marchionne wanted to change the line up to force Vettel out of his comfort zone by putting a younger and hungrier driver who has more of a drive to prove himself.

          Putting Leclerc at Ferrari wasn’t just going to be a validation of Ferrari’s young driver programme – since it would prove that it was possible to make it into the team, just as Red Bull do with their programme – but it was also intended to challenge Vettel and see whether he was performing as strongly as he could, or if Kimi was underperforming relative to Vettel.

          In some ways, it would have also been Marchionne’s final way of symbolically cutting the last ties to Luca di Montezemolo’s era at Ferrari – it was, after all, Luca who was in charge when Kimi was signed – since it would have further stamped his authority on the team and shown that he was going to mould it in his own image.

          What better way to do that by breaking with Ferrari’s driver policies, which have traditionally been extremely conservative, by picking Leclerc – a driver who would be one of the youngest ever drivers to drive for Ferrari (possibly only Ricardo Rodriguez was younger), and the driver with the fewest races under his belt to drive for Ferrari since Gilles Villeneuve in 1978, 40 years ago (in fact, I think it’s almost exactly 40 years ago to the month since Gilles signed for Ferrari)?

          1. Vettel was perhaps getting a little too comfortable with having Kimi in the other seat

            This is a feeling that I share. The reason why I thought signing Ricciardo would be a master’s stroke. I guess they were waiting to see how Leclerc would turn out to be

    2. All comments made here re. Ferarri’s decision rationale are obviously speculative, unless you were actually a part of the Ferarri management team this season.
      That being said you can come to a few conclusions based on the decision to swap Leclerc and Kimi, IMO:
      – F1 teams never make any decision based on one factor alone, a bit like how they design the car, it’s normally a compromise between many factors
      – LeClerc is an exceptional talent and worthy of promotion
      – Vettel is 31 years old and will need a replacement at some point
      – Vettel has compehensively beaten Raikkonen at Ferarri
      – Raikkonen will be a huge asset to Sauber

      I believe the above are facts and will have influenced Ferarri’s decison, there may be other factors in Ferarri’s decision making process going forward but I’m not aware of them.

      1. @Hans You could also add to your “facts” If Leclerc doesn’t perform then Ferrari can always get Kimi back.
        Is it not possible that Ferrari have two main motivational reasons for this swap?
        1 Try Leclerc and honour Sergio’s idea to put a young driver in
        2 If it doesn’t pan out then keep a backup in the form of Kimi at Sauber
        So Kimi’s “demotion” I see as a smart move by Ferrari and Kimi has agreed to the deal.
        Just speculation on my part which points out that the so called facts can be interpreted many different ways.
        I also don’t understand why Kimi is being compared to Massa in the article when my scenario is way more likely in my opinion.

  2. Deserve or not has nothing to do with it. Räikkönen may be better prospect for Ferrari for one more year, but not long term. Vettel may get frustrated and quit, which would put Ferrari in position of needing two drivers, all of sudden. It sure is uncharacteristic move for the Scuderia, to hire a rookie after only one year, but then…they hesitated to sign Räikkönen for 2002 and lost him to McLaren. I wish both drivers best of luck in 2019.

  3. Yes he does unfortunatley, but ironically the year he lost his seat was the one in the past 4 he deserved to keep it.
    Even more unfortunate is that he probably kept his seat after Jules died and may have been gone a few years back.

    This year he started really well, had a few races he was off but has been great again of late- he still has it but dissapointing he hasnt driven as well in the past few years that he did this year. I do think when he knows he cant fight Seb through team orders he just coasts around- not a ‘lackluster effort’ but more if the team wont let me race why try to hard.

    Looking forward to what he can do in that car next year- go Kim!

    1. @garns

      ironically the year he lost his seat was the one in the past 4 he deserved to keep it.

      Not 2016? That’s the one that looks like the outlier.

  4. I think this says more about the state of Ferrari and its #1 driver than it does about Kimi. Ferrari still lacks sufficient focus and execution to overcome the juggernaut that is Mercedes F1 to win the WDC and/or WCC. Dropping an up and coming talent into the #2 seat will mix up team chemistry and apply some (much needed?) pressure to Seb. But for better or for worse? We shall see. I just hope Kimi can have moments in the Sauber like he did with Lotus!

  5. I don’t think Kimi has underperformed at all.
    I think he has done exactly what he was paid and told to do, and that is to support Seb.
    That is why I think he has been a bit boring these last two seasons. He knows he can’t win, but he is in a fantastic racing car (which I assume he enjoys) and he is being paid good money (which I assume most people would enjoy), so what the heck just turn up, drive fast, go home.
    Top life.
    Now he will be off the leash – albeit in an inferior car – and can push just for the sheer joy of racing.
    Go Kimi ;)

  6. I think this says more about the state of Ferrari and its #1 driver than it does about Kimi. Ferrari still lacks sufficient focus and execution to overcome the juggernaut that is Mercedes F1 to win the WDC and/or WCC. Dropping an up and coming talent into the #2 seat will mix up team chemistry and apply some (much needed?) pressure to Seb. But for better or for worse? We shall see.

    I just hope Kimi can deliver some amazing moments in the Sauber like he did with Lotus!

  7. Does the qualification difference include Spa results where Kimi lost 3.7s to Sebastian because he didn’t have enough fuel?

  8. Kimi didn’t lose a seat. He still does his passion for the penultimate sport of speed for another two years. He will be a part owner of one of the well-known team, a team that expected to get better support from Ferrari next year. Most of all he does all that at the age that no modern driver ever dare to have the opportunity to do.

    1. @ruliemaulana, Kimi will become a part owner of Sauber? Please let us know where you heard that. Thanks!

      1. @shimks Some Italian media said that Pascal Picci let Kimi bought Sauber shares so Ericsson’s managers whose pays the team previously can not make the board of shareholders to reject him.

        1. Ferrari B.1 yes?

          1. Yes, a so called slave team

        2. Wow, that is fascinating, @ruliemaulana! There is always a way around a problem, eh! :O)

  9. Also, early in the season Kimi was on Seb’s level at least. Faster in Australia, faster until Q3 in China (although I wonder how much was down to the paddle on seb’s car as he lost most of the time on the straight.) He was on course for Pole at Baku until he blew it on the last corner.
    His race pace has always been worse than that of Seb though, I think Seb would have won at Monza if he didn’t throw it away on lap 1.

    1. he blew it in the last corner of bahrain… china.. baku.. in spain he was 0.300 off vettel, in monaco 0.266 of vettel who was 2nd and kimi 4th with lewis in between, from canada i can forgive him because seb got the complete upgrade while kimi couldnt get the ICE or the turbo(cant remember), just the rest of parts

  10. Despite his good performances, Kimi hasn’t helped Vettel for his fight for the championships (current year and 2017).
    By hiring a rookie, Ferrari have an excuse for a clear number 2 driver. That shows to me a commitment to Seb.
    But like commenters above wrote, Vettel has to step up. Ferrari need a top-class driver who they can rely upon. And I can’t say I’m convinced by Vettel at the moment. And if on top of that Leclerc doesn’t match Kimi’s performance, Ferrari could be in trouble.

    1. In this worst-case scenario, in which Vettel doesn’t perform in the level expected of him and Leclerc not becoming the star we all want him to be, I can honestly see Hamilton ending his career with Ferrari.

      1. then ham can become the only person to be wdc in three different teams? is there such a thing? :)

        1. Fangio has won 5 WDC titles with 4 different teams; but I can’t remember a driver who won titles with 3 different teams.

          1. fangio was not contracted to a team like today …he was known to swop teams if a better car came along during the season

          2. @lebesset

            seems like every race or other he changed team, i wonder if those teams were merely car suppliers/hobbyist/normal tuner garages?

            like in 1950, first five races with different teams every time… the formula wasnt formulated at the time with strict rules so seems you could drive a car with a team that suits/chance to win the specific race?

            i guess his circumstances are very unique… he nearly/almost win every race he entered… his cv is very impressive.

  11. I believe that had Kimi been regularly fighting at the front of the field he would have been retained for another year. As it is, Ferrari probably felt that they could get similar results with Leclerc and groom him to be Vettel’s replacement.

  12. I think the timing is right. Kimi is a known entity. He’s not as quick as Vettel and he’s not getting any quicker. He won’t be winning a WDC any time soon, so you may as well give a try to the unknown who might very well be quicker. The one for the future. Leclerc has taken to F1 like a duck to water. It makes little sense to prevent him from continuing to develop through the grid.

    I will say I’m impressed with Kimi agreeing to move back down the grid though. If I had to guess I’d have said he’d walk away once no longer in a winning car.

    1. That duck had some swimming problems in the beginning.
      Let’s hope he can handle the stress level at Ferrari.

  13. In the grand scheme of driver changes this seems like a fair one. Kimi is past his peak and Leclerc was always going to end up at Ferrari, would another year with Kimi at Ferrari and Leclerc at Sauber have really benefited either driver? I think Kimi will have more fun in a team where both drivers are treated more equally and Leclerc will be happy to have the opportunity to prove he is world champion material.

  14. Like last point mention Kimi does perform well in a team which lacks too much internal politics and he gets a decent car under him which might be Sauber of all current crop of teams. Best luck for his future endeavour with a new team.

  15. Raikonnen had a fantastic return with Lotus but imo he hasn’t been able to match the results at Ferrari since then. I would also venture that he never really performed at his best at Ferrari even though he managed to win his only WDC with Ferrari which was mostly aided by the Alonso/Hamilton fight at McLaren.

    I think the fact that he couldn’t win the race at Monza last week even though he drove really well was a clear sign to Ferrari that there’s no way he could win the championship himself or even with Vettel. It may not have to do with his driving ability as much as his ability to drive well at Ferrari. Some things just aren’t meant to work together.

    I’m curious to see his performance at Sauber.

  16. Death knell for SeeBashem’s way too fragile ego.
    Charles will beat him once. Then again, & SV will resign his seat.
    Remember you read it here first!

    1. Stroll – World Champion Driver – 2019…!
      I don’t expect it to happen but… just in case, remember you read it here first… lol…

    2. I just like to read SeeBashem

  17. “I saw Kimi’s last win in a black and white TV”.

    I think they’ll have to rename him Dorian Gray by that finding.

  18. These statistics shows me one thing (and much more than I expected); Alonso was stronger at Ferrari than Vettel.

    Maybe Ferrari should get Alonso back to end their title drought.

    1. Massa was at the same level of Raikonen. Alonso (alongside Ericsson) is the driver that destroyed most careers on F1.

  19. Kimi is known as an excellent development driver. Everyone read the radio transcript between he and his race engineer. He knows his stuff. No, he’s not the greatest one lap driver and as much as I love him, he never has been. But his race craft is excellent and he’s an outstanding ambassador for F1 and good sportsmanship. While I’m disappointed that Ferrari has thrown Kimi away, yet again, I’m thrilled that he still has the desire to race and help build a team badly in need of that level of commitment and skill. Never been a Sauber fan but am a life long Kimi fan. I’m off to buy some Sauber gear!

  20. Wait a minute….only last week it was all Alonso’s fault. There was a long list of comments on here of things he did wrong, many at Ferrari.

  21. Ferrari’s problem was letting Brawn and Schumacher become bigger than them. ‘Nobody is bigger than the team’ they used to cry. Errm yes they were.

  22. Kimi had a golden opportunity to win from pole on Sunday but blew it. Was a long way off the pace in the end, destroyed his tyres.

    1. Yeah but none of that was Kimi’s fault, it was the team’s fault. If anything, Ferrari lost the race more than Kimi did.

      1. He never managed to break away from Lewis which I believe Seb would have been capable of. They did blow the strategy after that though.

        1. @db01 I thought Kimi had broken away before he pitted – maybe not as much as Vettel but still enough to win had he not run into Bottas. Vettel’s great at breaking away from the lead but I only recall Lewis being able to do the same in recent times.

          I’m not sure you can fault Kimi for not being Vettel though. Where was Vettel at Monza? :-)

          1. giving a tow to kimi and then fighting him at the start.. lol

      2. kimi never manage to break away in the lead.. look monaco last year seb was always at 2 seconds behind him and everytime he cooled the engine he would close to 1 second… after kimi WHO WAS in the lead and got PREFERENTIAL pit stop, seb manage to unleash his pace and leap frogged him… and people jumped saying ferrari made an elegant switch…
        look germany 2018 kimi manage to cook sebs tire for 10 lap… he didnt have enough pace to build a gap.. once he moved away seb left him eating dust and fumes..

        doesnt matter how much people like the guy.. he lack pace most of the time.. ferrari gave him all the chances in monza and he couldnt deliver

  23. I believe it is fair to say that the average performance gap between Raikkonen and Vettel has been greater than the one between Hamilton and Rosberg, Verstappen and Ricciardo or Hamilton and Bottas. So it is not surprising at all that Ferrari believe that their second car is capable of more, it just needs another driver.

    For sure, there are always other considerations in such situations. Often you prefer a safe pair of hands over a blindingly quick troublemaker. If Vettel was comfortably leading the world championship and had a contract until 2022 or so, then Ferrari’s decision might be different. But despite being one of the finest drivers of his generation, Seb has made some costly errors over the last two seasons and I think that the management of the team feel that their number one driver needs a new benchmark, might not be the best long-term option or simply might eventually grow tired of Ferrari or F1 in general. So they are looking at the future and hedging their bets.

  24. This move was decided weeks ago, it took several weeks to work out the details and contracts. It had nothing to do with the Monza results.

    Kimi still has the fire and I look forward to what he can do at Sauber.

    Someone was going be leaving Ferrari in 2019, Leclerc is too promising to not get the seat. Kimi was out of contract and Seb was under contract. The decision was easy. Doesn’t take away from the solid and consistent points delivery by Kimi.

  25. For me is pretty clear that:
    Alonso > Vettel > Massa > Raikkonen

  26. I’m not sure he deserved the seat in the first place if I’m honest.

    He was flattered on his comeback by a lotus that was unbelievably kind on its tyres and the fact his team-mate was Grosjean(even he got 8 podiums in that car) making him look better than he was.

    He was simply awful in 2014 and whilst he has looked better this year, often like the kimi of 05-08 it only comes in glimpses and he rarely puts a weekend together. Final nail was monza.

    Couldn’t pass bottas, destroyed his tyres and despite making an extra stop, having significant damage to his car and having to work way through pack Vettel finished only 7 seconds behind him by the end of the race.

    1. if ferrari managment wasnt that stubborn they could have used team order… mercedes is using it, is legal, is ugly but legal, ferrari doesnt look that hungry to get the win, im pretty sure if raikonen let pass seb in the first corner or make it easier in the second corner, im sure seb would have gotten the win, raik can put one lap but race pace nanana he always lacks there in comparison to seb and hamilton and even bottas

  27. I’m glad Ferrari finally decides to break the tradition by hiring Leclerc. I was waiting for that to happen with Jules. I think it can only be good for the team and for Seb as well who might be invigorated by this new challenge.
    As for Raikonnen I think he should have left F1. I’m not really fan but first and foremost he’s underperforming since his return to Ferrari and it’s not a few sparks that will make me change my mind. For sure It’s a massive coup for Sauber, the guy brings unmatched feedback and experience from a top team which is invaluable but I’d rather bring new talent onboard. Sauber (and Ferrari) should at least put Giovinazzi in the other car.

  28. The bottom line is that since he returned to Ferrari in 2014 Raikkonen has had a race-winning car in three out of five seasons yet hasn’t scored a single win

    Exactly. Yet when you put a race-winning car in the hands of most champions, you’ll get a win very soon. Raikkonen belongs to the Button, Rosberg etc. lineage of one-time F1 champions, fast, consistent, but without that edge and thirst to win that you see in Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso etc. The assumption (including my own) is that Leclerc is more the latter type. But it needs a touch of ruthlessness. If so, we should see it soon next season.

  29. Fikri Harish (@)
    11th September 2018, 16:42

    Well @keithcollantine, I think you just proved that Betteridge’s law of headlines isn’t bulletproof after all.
    He was solid and sometimes great during his Lotus days and I’m willing to accept that based on those two years alone, he’s good enough to be in a Ferrari but his performance since then has been pretty much mediocre.

    For those arguing that he was close to Vettel in 2016, look at how Ricciardo managed to dominate Vettel in 2014 during another one of Vettel’s subpar season.
    The thing is, Raikkonen isn’t even fast enough to be used to help Vettel’s championship bid. Bottas may not be able to match Hamilton’s pace, but there are a number of occasions in both last season and this one where he could pick up the slack when Hamilton is having problems or like in Monza, to directly help Hamilton win an actual race.
    My memory’s a bit hazy but I can’t recall a single instance in that past two years where Ferrari has been able to count on Raikkonen to do the same.

    At the very least, I doubt Leclerc could do worse than Raikkonen. Heck, given Vettel’s inconsistency, there’s even an actual possibility that Leclerc might actually be better than Vettel.

    1. i remember how when vettel had the pace to try to catch the mercedes in recent years raikonen was in the other ferrari fighting for 5th or 6th with one of the redbull and this year, and unlike bottas… when hamilton is not there to pick up the points the ferrari find a strong bottas.. when vettel have an off day… is an easy 1-2 for mercedes with raikonen nowhere..
      about raikonen helping seb… well they tried this year only once and it was useless he was on older tire in china and bottas was closing up he was about to be but didnt have the pace to slow him down a bit… same in 2017, no pace at all in china but instead of helping vettel and moving away he forced vettel to do that great overtake.. then vettel overtook ricciardo and was catching hamilton thats the kind of things kimis fans never see.. his lack of pace during the race and the q3 mistakes he always make

  30. No, but Vettel deserves a test after underperforming this year.

  31. Yes RAI deserved to loose his seat.. NO LEC didn’t deserved to have it…

  32. Hm, right after reading the headline, my first thought was that it was the wrong question to pose @keithcollantine!
    Because arguably Stoffel did not deserve to lose his McLaren drive, and Sainz doesn’t deserve to lose his Renault drive either. But Ricciardo certainly can do more in that Renault than Sainz was doing. And I can see Lando being able to show more of himself than Stoffel could in the McLaren.

    So really the question is, whether Leclerc deserves a top seat.

    Honestly, I think Kimi has been driving quite well for the last years, especially when we take into account that he must have always known that as long as his teammate was in there, they would only use him as support crew. I hope that with nothing like that going on at Sauber he can show us another few great drives like what he showed at his best at Lotus so that the fans can feel proud of him again before he says goodbye to his driving career.

  33. I thought that there was quite a realistic chance that Ferrari might have given Kimi one more season. My general feeling is that Kimi has actually performed better this year than he has in the last couple of seasons. I think he was more fortunate to keep his place at Ferrari at the end of 2016 and 2017. This is more or less borne out by the charts included above.

    I think Leclerc is quite a risk for Ferrari and it would not have hurt him to have another year under his belt before moving to a top team. It’s not really a huge surprise though. Be very interesting to see how he gets on against Vettel.

    I cannot really understand Kimi’s decision to continue either. With the best will in the world he might get a few minor points finishes in a season at Sauber. I can only assume he must just really enjoy the racing though and thinks it too much of a hassle to get to know another racing genre at this stage in his career. I have never been a big fan of Kimi’s but I hope he does OK.

  34. Did Raikkonen deserve to lose his Ferrari seat?

    Let me reword that for you. “Did Raikkonen deserve have a seat in Ferrari’s car?”

    Simple answer. No, there’s younger, faster, better drivers out there.

  35. you wouldn’t call Raikkonen a one-lap specialist

    Up until 2006, I would have… I get the feeling he was better in the old style 1 lap only qualyfing format.

    All in all I think Ferrari made the right decision. The timing wasn’t right, as Kimi needed to be replaced much earlier. But you can’t blame them for using Massa and Kimi for so long. Remember they lost 2 of their potential drivers before they were even given the chance: Kubica and Jules Bianchi. So the decision had to be made: keep the old guy in the seat while the next driver arrives. And that driver turned out to be Charles Leclerc.

    Good for him, and for Ferrari. And even for Seb, he might get even better. I think even Webber pushed Seb harder than Kimi during the Red Bull days…

    1. From the moment it became Formula Nursing we lost Kimi along the way

    2. i agree webber was harder than kimi… people are quick to jump into the number 2 treatment and team orders.. but so far i only saw team orders when kimi was on older tire and different strategy.. of when he simply didnt have the pace which was most of the time, not to mention his poor starts and qualifying at q3.. ferrari gave him a fair treatment, look now even when raikonen is out of the wdc they gave him the tow in monza and didnt call for team order at the start

  36. I’ve seen similar statiscal comparisons such as this but usually from fans as they usually don’t show anything relevant, mostly because they fail to acknowledge other factors that might influence driver performance. It reminds me of that stat that some people keep bringing up every once in a while that JB outscored Hamilton on the course of two seasons, but fails to show that 2 out of those 3 years Hamilton was the much better driver.

    One factor that this overlooks for example os that the Ferrari has been improving year on year since the hybrid era begun, so it is harder for a Ferrari driver to lose points as pace difference for other cars has been increasing, therefore it is normal that, in this case, Kimi finishes closer to his teammate and his share of points his bigger.

    Other things is, even though Kimi and Massa have the no 2 driver treatment, Massa was done harder by it, with his team even going against the rules. In defence of the Brazilian, we should also not forget that he returned from a massive accident, I always felt that he lacked something from that moment on, and surely that first year was the hardest.

    All in all to justify Kimi’s contonuity at Ferrari based on stats like this feels to me like a pointless exercise.

  37. At 40 years old he’s close in performance to Vettel. When he is motivated he’s faster than Vettel. I believe it’s Ferrari orders showing him down. At the beginning of the year he was neck and neck with Vettel only to loose out for whatever reason. It showed that when raikkonen wants too, he can at least match Vettel. He did not deserve to go.

  38. Kimi wouldn’t win, because Ferrari would either a) not let him, or b) mess up strategy in a royal way. So no comparison to Seb. and Kimi went because he outperformed Seb. Trouble is that Seb-baby in on the way out too. 2019 Leclerque will be a good boy and step back during the race. 2020, he’ll have Seb for breakfast along with some Muesli and dried fruit.

  39. I was a huge fan of what I call ‘Proper Raikkonen’, in the 2000s… I was convinced at the time he was better than Alonso, and he certainly had far more raw pace and ‘natural talent’. Loved watching him drive and knew he could go on to great things, that he’d be the successor to Schumacher…

    Last saw that particular Raikkonen around 10 years ago. I don’t know if it’s politics, or his personal life, or if he just lost his drive once he had a world title and a place in the history books, but he stopped being that brilliant, exciting driver and became what he is now – a guy who just doesn’t seem capable of rediscovering those extra couple of tenths that made him special. A driver who is happy to turn up, be a No. 2 and get paid. Proper Raikkonen would have destroyed Vettel… the current incarnation shocks everyone if he finishes ahead.

    So yeah, much as I loved the driver he was, for me he deserves to lose it… and has since 2014.

    1. >around 10 years ago

      When he crashed out in Spa fighting Lewis, in context of his performances that year it felt like a seminal moment in his career for sure.

  40. As a MASSIVE Raikkonen fan I’m stoked for this move. He stays in F1 and moves to a team where he may feel more comfortable. I hope he gets the support to perform at his best, and a team mate that can help the team keep developing. They’re on the up, and we could even see the car challenge for wins in the right circumstances.

  41. Really sorry that raikkonen will leave ferrari at the end of the year, I’ve never been a fan of his (was a schumacher fan when he was racing), but only lately I’ve realized how a special character he is, with his short answers, sometimes very quick performances like poles at the current age, much less point-costing mistakes than vettel in recent times and got very close to a monza win last week, was unlucky partially because of mercedes team game.

    He definitely improved this year, most likely the 2018 car suits him better than the 2017 where it was really a disaster, he sometimes was able to beat vettel in qualifying, sometimes in race pace, but most of the times he just couldn’t compete in race speed and often made some costly mistakes in q3.

    He’s now 39 after all and that’s a big disadvantage when decline starts at 35 and arguably he was never as fast as vettel.

    So I don’t think he deserved to lose his seat THIS year, if anything he deserved to keep it but should’ve lost it after his 2017 performance for example.

    Like someone else said, other drivers, sainz out of all, also didn’t deserve to lose their seat.

    Leclerc obviously deserves the chance to drive for a top team, but so do other midfield drivers, including alonso.

    Probably the right choice to continue with sauber rather than leaving f1, he can get a few more millions and score a few points, and play “alonso”, as in drag an underperforming car where it doesn’t deserve to be, like alonso did these last years with the mclaren.

    And I really hope he can get a last win this year with ferrari, would be really a shame if his last win were in 2013 with lotus, just like alonso, but at least alonso never had a car capable to win after that, raikkonen did.

  42. Ferrari were very good to Kimi. He’s been a great number two, but the Kimi and Sebastian formula has been tried and found to be a bit wanting. Surely Ferrari played a role in allowing Kimi to fail forward and gain a drive at Sauber to keep his reputation in check. There’s nothing Ferrari owe Kimi.

    If I were Vettel, I’d be worried Ferrari see him as the new Kimi, though. I really hope Leclerc asserts himself as the leader after a year.

  43. Yeah its Kimi’s time to go. Going to Sauber is great for him as i reckon he is one of those drivers that would just drive anything. Its a win win for Ferrari and Kimi

  44. I’m a bit conflicted here as a Raikkonnen fan. I think there are different questions which are being conflated. The first is how is Kimi performing against Seb and it seems quite clear that he is generally slower. The second question is how is Kimi performing against his potential. He’s older than Seb and at times seems to have an earlier generation (and slower) PU, so we would expect him to be slower. The gap seems to me, and this is obviously a matter of judgement, about what we would expect given the above factors, and so I don’t think we can really say Kimi is under-performing what he could reasonably achieve. At least some of the issues are within Ferrari’s control, so they are responsible for some of the gap, and I think I’m right in saying that the gap has reduced with Kimi’s new PU.
    Given the age-gap, Kimi is less likely to win the championship than Seb so arguably Ferrari only has one real chance. Leclerc may increase that to 2 (I’m not sure if he’s “ready” in terms of skills outside of outright speed as I haven’t followed him that closely), but possibly at the cost of reducing Seb’s (taking points off him, putting him under pressure etc.). At the moment it’s impossible to tell whether the move makes the elusive first championship since 2007 more likely.
    As for the move to Sauber, I was surprised, but I think Kimi’s enjoying his driving at the moment and is quite happy to carry on. He may even prefer it as midfield battles tend to be closer than at the front, so he might have more chance to display his skills which seem relatively intact (I’ve been struck this year that while, like Seb, he’s made mistakes during races, his have been much more salvagable e.g. Silverstone and Austria).

  45. Your graphic on the difference in qualification is not very honest.
    In 2018, there are more than 0’5 only because Raikkonen did not have gasoline in Q3 in Belgium. The difference of 3.7 seconds is unrealistic. The true gap 2018 is 0’241.

    It’s the same thing at Red Bull. No Verstappen is not 0’6 faster than Ricciardo in “average” but about 1 tenth.

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