HRT have confirmed Vitantonio Liuzzi will drive for them in 2011.
The former Force India driver will partner Narain Karthikeyan at the team.
Liuzzi said: “I am really happy to have signed this agreement with Hispania Racing.
“I never lost hope to be in Formula One as I knew I have the experience and the right attributes for a young and ambitious team. I face a new challenge now and this excites me.
“I also face a lot of hard work in guiding Hispania Racing through the development of our new car. I am extremely grateful to Jos?�?� Ramon Carabante and to Colin Kolles for giving me such an opportunity.”
Team principal Colin Kolles said Liuzzi “is a very professional driver who will bring a lot of benefits to the team.”
“I have known Tonio for many years as he raced with me in lower categories.
“I am convinced about his skills to develop a car and his speed. He has shown this in the past having contributed to a large extend developing and moving a back grid car to the front. I had the pleasure of working with him and I am very happy and proud to have him racing with Hispania Racing."
HRT also confirmed they will present their 2011 F1 car and drivers on Friday at the Circuit de Catalunya.
View the full and complete list of 2011 F1 drivers and teams.
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SennaNmbr1 (@)
9th March 2011, 13:06
:O
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys)
9th March 2011, 13:10
Who would you prefer in the seat, then?
SennaNmbr1 (@)
9th March 2011, 13:22
Klien.
Adam
9th March 2011, 16:14
Liuzzi is hungrier than Klien so he’s the better choice. Neither ever were that great and the best days of both are behind them. Also HRT isn’t going to be in the hunt for ANY podiums this year, so even if you believe Klien is a better driver, it just doesn’t matter since the car will still be horrid.
Klien only wants the HRT drive because he sees it as his absolute last chance to drive in F1 and he doesn’t want to give that up. Liuzzi thinks he still has a future in F1, and thinks he can get back to a better team, so he’ll be fighting harder to regain what he had just last season. I’m sure he thought he could get a drive with another team for this season, yet here he is taking the last seat available, for the worst team, and having to wait until the day before the final testing to get it. All of these things will will make him much more motivated than Klien, and thus the better choice. Klien just wants wants to cling to being a race driver a bit longer, while Liuzzi still has something to prove and is (at least in his mind) fighting for his future.
RaulZ
9th March 2011, 21:27
I don’t think so. It seems that Luizzi has more money than Klien.
Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys)
9th March 2011, 21:30
Liuzzi has more recet racing experience than Klien. In 2010, Klien did three races for the team. Liuzzi did twenty. And it’s not like Klien was a test driver, either – he hadn’t tested since 2008, when he did one Friday session at Silverstone for Honda.
Put short, if Hispania wanted to be taken seriously, then they needed Liuzzi.
Magnificent Geoffrey (@magnificent-geoffrey)
9th March 2011, 22:54
I agree. He may not be the greatest of all time, but he does seem like the best option out of all they had.
Daffid
10th March 2011, 1:14
If they wanted to be taken seriously they shouldn’t have signed Karthikeyan. Serioulsy, Klein, Liuzzi… not much to choose between, neither is in anyway going to change perceptions of HRT. Liuzzi has more experience, and has had plenty of opportunity to prove himself, and shown very little. Klein hasn’t shown much, maybe he’s a better driver now, maybe not. Either way, the idea that Liuzzi brings something significant that Klein doesn’t is laughable.
Icthyes (@icthyes)
10th March 2011, 1:33
Irrelevant.
Klien jumped into the car and made it go faster. Liuzzi spent most of the year making it go slower. If anything this undermines HRT’s image.
Mike
10th March 2011, 8:13
I think this signing is the exact opposite of that, it makes perfect sense for a team with limited finances to use one seat to bolster their budget. And Liuzzi, may not be a Sutil, but he isn’t completely rubbish. And for HRT that is a miracle.
Shimks
9th March 2011, 14:01
It’s an HRT, not a Seat!
:p
US_Peter (@us_peter)
9th March 2011, 18:29
Well it’s a seat, but not much more. It has some wheels around it, so maybe it could be called a wheelchair?
JamoduF1
9th March 2011, 20:36
A Seat Cupra probably drives better though ;)
RaulZ
9th March 2011, 21:35
you cannot speak about it, because you haven’t seen it. :P
BasCB (@bascb)
10th March 2011, 6:54
RaulZ, you mean the Seat Cupra or the HRT car ;-)?
That seat cupra is not too bad. lets see what HRT bring tyo track tomorrow.
Fixy (@)
9th March 2011, 14:00
:D
Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!
Solo (@solo)
9th March 2011, 14:46
I expect many articles of support for HRT from Joe Saward. :D
sato113 (@sato113)
9th March 2011, 15:40
apparently Joe Saward is having the best day of his life, according to sources close to the team…
Patrickl
9th March 2011, 19:04
Who wouldn’t if you idol lands a top drive in an HRT. Who will possibly have a car come friday. A chance like that is a one in a million …
Alianora La Canta
10th March 2011, 0:39
If you were expecting one of your favourite drivers to have nothing, getting the worst (racing) seat in the house suddenly becomes an absolute thrill. Even more so if said driver does something with it. If Joe’s feelings are anything like mine where when Fisi went to Force India, he’ll be jumping for joy right now :)
matt88 (@matt88)
9th March 2011, 16:33
Yeah! Go Tonio! :D
BasCB (@bascb)
9th March 2011, 13:08
Good choice I think, but Liuzzi will have his hands full to show where they can find some speed.
He might even make it to a full season drive if he’s lucky or very good.
DVC (@dvc)
9th March 2011, 13:17
How can you say that, when we haven’t seen their car yet?
bosyber (@bosyber)
9th March 2011, 14:04
It seems very unlikely they now suddenly have a front-of-grid speed car. And if they do, they somehow made a big jump, doing things they have little experience in doing; like taking care of very tight heat and packaging restrictions to get good aero performance, and much improved suspension. If so, changes are high they will have lost a lot of reliability.
In both cases that means a lot of work. If Joe Saward is right about how good Liuzzi is at developing the car and working on setup, this team seems to be the one to appreciate it, as it is a relatively cheap way of gaining laptime.
Unless they find a goldmine-driver, of course.
RaulZ
9th March 2011, 21:42
Drivers don’t develop cars, the engineers do it. He can be fast and show what the car needs but the team is who has to develop it. I think they already have good people who knows how to make a good car.
DVC (@dvc)
10th March 2011, 0:38
Yeah, I know it’s unlikely but my point stands, we just don’t know yet. They have had longer than anyone else to work on the design of their car. In the past Ferrari would only introduce their new car after the 3 flyaway races, so that by mid-season the advantage of all that extra design time would be showing on track.
BasCB (@bascb)
9th March 2011, 14:49
Wouldn’t that make it even more hands full of work to do? Even if it meant pushing a cart around?
SteveMovieVoice (@welshf1)
9th March 2011, 13:10
Dont like/rate him but atleast common sense has prevailed.
sw6569 (@sw6569)
9th March 2011, 13:16
I do rate Liuzzi. Not as highly as I did before 2010 admittedly, but he is a far superior driver than Karthikeyan and will be a valuable asset to HRT.
The only problem is that I can’t see how this will enhance his career at all. Right now, I can’t see how any driver could increase their profile driving for a backmarking team. Then again, I suppose it keeps him race sharp.
What I do hope though is that the same driver lineup is maintained throughout the season
OEL
9th March 2011, 13:29
“Right now, I can’t see how any driver could increase their profile driving for a backmarking team.”
Only a brilliant drive in the wet, beating some of the established teams, would be seen by most people. And consistently outpacing his teammate, but that shouldn’t be too difficult for Liuzzi.
Fixy (@)
9th March 2011, 14:03
I don’t think anyone else would have hired Liuzzi, so at least he kept a seat for a season and hopefully he can demonstrate himself as a good driver beating his teammate.
hoshi
9th March 2011, 15:36
we will see ..i think narain has enough to prove many wrong..
i am happy that HRT took liuzzi and rather than another pay driver.
you see..i agree narain is a pay driver
but he has got some talent too…
Last Pope Eye
10th March 2011, 6:03
Yes of course they are! Unlike many people here.. Only good in talking.. We are just nothing compared to Narain. lol
Icthyes (@icthyes)
9th March 2011, 13:19
Liuzzi and Karthikeyan…at least there’ll be plenty of motivation to prove themselves!
Red Andy (@red-andy)
9th March 2011, 13:20
As long as his position within the team is relatively secure, Liuzzi will bring decent experience and development capability to the team. He’s the right choice for them given the options available.
Icthyes (@icthyes)
9th March 2011, 14:24
Surely in those areas Klien is the better choice? I mean, Senna is likely better than Liuzzi and Klien came straight in and beat him because of his experience, so why not him?
Red Andy (@red-andy)
9th March 2011, 15:26
I don’t rate Klien. At all.
Unless your primary sponsor is an Austrian energy drinks corporation I don’t know why you’d want him in your team.
Icthyes (@icthyes)
9th March 2011, 21:28
See above?
Alianora La Canta
10th March 2011, 0:44
The Austrian sponsor in question stopped funding him when he refused to go Stateside after he was dropped from its F1 teams.
Eric
10th March 2011, 6:35
Whether Senna is better than Liuzzi is a tough call. Senna’s abilities are still up the air. He didn’t have a consistent teammate last year. However on Klien’s performances last year I would have picked him if the sponsorship money was even remotely close between him and Liuzzi. Liuzzi really underwhelms me, some people aren’t made for F1 and despite a great junior career I think Liuzzi is one of those.
SparkyJ23 (@sparkyj23)
9th March 2011, 13:21
Joe Seward is dancing round his kitchen right now.
Lets see if they can get the car on track and running
Fixy (@)
9th March 2011, 14:11
Me too! When I opened F1F I yelled with joy!
BasCB (@bascb)
9th March 2011, 14:51
just a factual statement http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news/what-are-electric-karts-really-like/
I really like liuzzis cap though.
GeeMac (@geemac)
9th March 2011, 13:25
Woohooo! Life from HRT! First an update on Facebook and now they are confirming their second driver!
Seriously though, I think this is a good move, an experienceed driver who knows what a half decent car should feel like, so he should help push HRT in the right direction. Really looking forward to seeing the F111 on Friday.
RIISE (@riise)
9th March 2011, 13:28
HRT are so stupid.
Meander
9th March 2011, 13:34
Sharp, to the point. Bit lacking in solid arguments there, but still, a good read.
sato113 (@sato113)
9th March 2011, 15:42
haha, that made me lol. :D
BasCB (@bascb)
10th March 2011, 6:57
LOL
Todfod (@todfod)
9th March 2011, 13:37
What better options do they have? Klien is questionable.. I think Liuzzi will atleast bring some experience to the team. After making a stupid decision to hire Karthikeyan, this decision seems a whole lot better.
US_Peter (@us_peter)
9th March 2011, 18:33
Agreed.
AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner)
9th March 2011, 13:40
I’m desperately trying to reserve judgment until I see the thing on track under competitive conditions.
snowman
9th March 2011, 14:04
Last year when I seen HRT had hired two rookies in their first year in F1 I thought they were so stupid too and nothing much they have done since then has changed my mind.
RaulZ
9th March 2011, 21:50
I think you’re been hard. If they didn’t have money and they couldn’t develop the car… why did they need a experienced driver? why stay with the drivers instead of looking for money or a new Vettel? They just had to stay at formula 1 waiting for the money this year they have, which is not enough.
The New Hope
9th March 2011, 13:28
I like Tonio, and though I think that HRT will stink it up this year, I wish him well.
Toro Stevo
9th March 2011, 13:30
I don’t get it, what has he got that he hasn’t shown already? Better than their Narain sure, but so is just about everybody else on the grid.
Does he bring a lot of capital? I’m just at a loss really, I couldn’t understand how he got his drive last year, but this year makes even less sense than that.
Fixy (@)
9th March 2011, 14:12
Other drivers available: De La Rosa; Klien. I personally think Liuzzi’s better.
Ned Flanders (@ned-flanders)
9th March 2011, 13:30
*Insert Joe Saward joke here* :P
sato113 (@sato113)
9th March 2011, 15:43
haha, this thread is making my day better!
Andy C
10th March 2011, 11:24
He’s the new Senna.
(Bruno)
Ben N
9th March 2011, 13:33
A good choice – and one that makes this years line-up look far better than 2010’s.
It does raise a few issues however; they sugar-coated Chandhok’s departure well, but it was obviously finance related. They can’t make such driver changes with unspecified reason this year. Presumably, if they were in need of cash then they’d drop Liuzzi, who will almost certainly outperform Karthikeyan, making it obvious why they have made the change.
This is also bad news for Karthikeyan, who could be very embarrassed to be lapped by his team-mate race after race…
Meander
9th March 2011, 13:36
Karthikeyan is not THAT horrible. Especially not compared to Liuzzi. Anyway, we’ll see won’t we?
Ben N
9th March 2011, 13:38
Maybe I was a little bit harsh! I think I’d say he’s better than Yamamoto, but I was exaggerating to stress my point!
Todfod (@todfod)
9th March 2011, 13:39
I think its very possible for Karthikeyan to get lapped by Liuzzi. But I guess you’re right.. we will just have to wait and see
zecks
9th March 2011, 14:01
It will be hard to get lapped by your team mate if both cars DNQ. But seriously, if we didn’t have mobile chicanes, F1 would be pretty boring. HRT etc make the good cars look as fast as the are, and also throw that bit of chance into the latter stages of the race when everyone is struggling with tires (canada)
Ben N
9th March 2011, 14:06
Get rid of blue flags and let them race even when being lapped!
The Last Pope
10th March 2011, 0:53
Have you seen the way Karthikeyan drives? He is crazy agressive with the stearing wheel even on straights, which is why he has a habit of flying of the track in high speed spins. He will have massive problems keeping his tyres. Liuzzi will probably need half as many pitstops in the race and thus will easily lap him.
BasCB (@bascb)
10th March 2011, 6:59
But it does make for a bit of fun in the field! Just hope he does not end up crashing into Liuzzi, what with Tonios luck lately.
Fixy (@)
9th March 2011, 14:13
I’m confident in my dear Tonio, but I’m afraid that might not happen although I wish so.
Solo (@solo)
9th March 2011, 14:54
Nobody thinks what will happen to Tonio if Karthikeyan starts beating him?
I will be laughing my ass off because i don’t think the Indian guy is as bad as you people think.
Fixy (@)
9th March 2011, 14:55
My exact point although maybe I’m worrying too much :)
silencer
9th March 2011, 13:36
okay… now waiting for the car..
hopefully the car will be unveil this friday and they’ll not postpone it further till Aussie GP
RaulZ
9th March 2011, 22:12
they just don’t wan’t all the teams copying their ideas. :)
BasCB (@bascb)
10th March 2011, 7:00
I suppose that’s it. Great confidence of the team, bringing it only to the last test. Must be another Brawn GP level car!
I do suppose they used the time to bring some extra nifty bits to the car.
BasCB (@bascb)
10th March 2011, 7:03
I was just thinking back to the gearbox/rear end.
Did they ever confirm, exactly what gearbox and rear end they will get? The 2009 Williams was still running a Toyota, so that would not work (clutch was in the engine, instead of in the gearbox).
It would be the 2010 one, only that was optimized for the DDD. Will that work this year? Hm, lets wait and see.
Kenny (@kenny)
9th March 2011, 13:36
HRT’s first and biggest problem, whoever is driving, will be getting onto the grid. The 107% rule could kill them.
snowman
9th March 2011, 13:51
Agree, this has got the makings of a very big problem for them. Luizzi ain’t great but it’s a better decision than most they have made.
GeeMac (@geemac)
9th March 2011, 14:27
On that point, Tonio wasn’t exactly the best qualifier last season was he…
Don Mateo
9th March 2011, 17:20
I’ll reserve judgement until I see the car, you never know, it could be surprisingly good. Then again they’ll be arriving at the first race with hardly any testing, so they’ll once again be at a disadvantage from the start.
Mouse_Nightshirt (@mouse_nightshirt)
9th March 2011, 18:55
A string of DNQs on someone’s career sheet never helps too much. Could be a poisoned chalice for Liuzzi.
I can almost hear the wailing from Joe now…
Andy C
9th March 2011, 23:03
I dont think it will be, but we’ll see wont we ;-)
AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner)
9th March 2011, 13:38
Joking aside, at least this year they have drivers with experience, albeit only one with recent experience. Looking forward to seeing the car on track and of course seeing how much traffic they create in Melbourne…if any.
Woffin
9th March 2011, 13:40
Should have been Klien. Unless Liuzzi is bringing some sponsors with him then this doesn’t really make sense because the guy has had plenty of chances to prove himself and nothing much has ever come of them.
SennaNmbr1 (@)
9th March 2011, 13:59
Apart from a crash.
Steph (@)
9th March 2011, 13:41
The real winner today is Joe Saward.
Congrats to Liuzzi though. Last year he had a bit of a nightmare but he was quite good in 09 and didn’t like the tyres last year so hopefully he can perform better (obviously it’s unlikely he’ll match his results though). He could be good for HRT as he’s been around the block so knows how a team should workn and how to set a car up and his speed isn’t too bad even if he isn’t of the highest quality. He’s the best option they had really and they’re the only option he had so good luck to them.
Todfod (@todfod)
9th March 2011, 13:55
LOL. That really cracked me up.
Fixy (@)
9th March 2011, 14:21
This news saved my day!
Toro Stevo
9th March 2011, 14:45
Didn’t like the tyres? Blaming changes in specs for not coming to grips with changes might work initially, but a good driver adapts quickly, and he had all year (and more of the previous) and didn’t really improve.
Still, better than klien and dela sure, but I’m sure they could have found someone else better in the lower series. I just don’t know who, lean pickings. I would have said Grosjean but he hardly set the world on fire in F1 either.
PatrickL
9th March 2011, 15:01
The fact that people joke about saward really shows how his silly Liuzzi bias has undermined his credibility. I wouldn’t call that a winner.
Red Andy (@red-andy)
9th March 2011, 15:38
The allegations are overblown I think. He has said that he believes Liuzzi is more talented than his F1 results show (which isn’t, I believe, an uncommon opinion among F1 “insiders”).
Then he made that slightly strange blog post about a lack of “morality” in F1 after Liuzzi was turfed out of Force India (though he thinks that McLaren did nothing wrong during Spygate; go figure).
But quite how all this has morphed into the perception that Joe is a slavering Liuzzi-worshipper, I’m not sure. My own suspicion is that some people were so eager to see di Resta get the Force India drive that they were immediately hostile to anyone suggesting that might not be the case.
Steph (@)
9th March 2011, 15:47
I don’t think Saward is that abd just there’s this opinion that he loves Liuzzi and he certainly backs him more readily than many other bloggers and journalists.
Happy for you Fixy. :)
That is absolutely true but drivers such as Button, Massa and Schumacher had complaints about the Bridgestone tyres so all I’m trying to point out is he could be better this year. I don’t really buy tyre excuses either as a driver should make the best of what they’ve got but Liuzzi could benefit from the switch to Pirelli’s.
Patrickl
9th March 2011, 19:26
He only reports the “clutching at straws” positive news/rumours that he can find/make up.
He keeps harping about how Liuzzi was “mentioned” in connection to Renault (when he really wasn’t even mentioned at all) and then dismisses the fact that he just got kicked out of a team … again.
Why ignore the opinions of those two real “insiders” and keep whining about some debunked rumour?
He hails Alonso’s opinion on Liuzzi when Alonso said the exact same thing to endorse Piquet jr. Now there’s a reference you want on your side.
It’s clear that he’s a friend of Liuzzi and it shows. It results in an incredible one sided report. That’s just poor journalism.
He also obviously deletes just about all replies that contradict his opinion fom his blog.
Meander
9th March 2011, 13:49
A little bit off topic here, but still kinda relevant:
The times that top teams would draft their F3000 (etc.) champion test-drivers into small teams to get used to F1 for a year or two seem to be over. If you discount the Toro Rosso program, that is.
I remember Renault/Briatore sticking Alonso (and later Webber) in at Minardi and I think it was McLaren who posted their young star Heidfeld at Prost, even though they subsequently never reeled him in.
I wonder if none of the the top teams could have paid HRT a bit to warm up their youngsters. Ferrari and Renault seem to have quite a batch. Red Bull could have had Ricciardo drive and have 3 students at work at the same time. Any chance this practice will return? Personally I really liked the drivers working their way up the ranks over the years.
Todfod (@todfod)
9th March 2011, 14:03
I do not know if the damage done to a young driver while driving for HRT is repairable. In all seriousness, it is quite a good idea, but it would require one of the top teams to pay quite a bit of money to get a young talent a drive, and I do not know if they would be willing to bear that cost.
Burnout
9th March 2011, 14:13
Yeah, I’m surprised something like that didn’t happen. HRT would get some much needed cash and the established teams can “buy” some experience for their future prospects. Everybody wins.
But right now it looks like none of the bigger teams are willing to go near Virgin or HRT (barring Williams). Is there some deep-seated mistrust towards the new teams?
Alianora La Canta
10th March 2011, 1:36
Virgin’s new driver, Jerome d’Ambrosio, was a Renault junior driver last year, so it’s possible Renault might take him back after he’s developed a bit.
As for the other big teams, Ferrari’s got an Academy driver (Sergio Perez) at Sauber, Mercedes has Paul di Resta at Force India, McLaren prefers to go its own way, Renault has the aforementioned Jerome at Virgin and Red Bull (as mentioned by Meander) uses Toro Rosso. Apart from Red Bull, all the other options in use are probably cheaper than a full season at Hispania.
After that you’re into the teams that either receive drivers from higher-ranking teams or are Williams. Of these, Force India grows its own talent (usually), Williams and Renault tends to use one experienced driver (without expecting much from the paydriver except to pay bills on time and be competent), Toro Rosso links up to junior teams Red Bull has because that’s its main purpose and Lotus does its own thing as it finds its feet.
So Hispania is not only a risky place to stow a young driver, it’s probably the more expensive option from the point of view of most teams.
Burnout
10th March 2011, 3:50
That’s a pretty comprehensive list Alianora. Thanks. I didn’t realize Perez was from the Ferrari Academy.
Andy C
10th March 2011, 11:27
“Ferrari’s got an Academy driver (Sergio Perez) at Sauber”
Fancy that, don’t they have a ferrari engine? ;-)
Now heavily discounted at a store near you :-)
Jonathan
9th March 2011, 13:51
I really don’t care – he will probably be replaced a few times before the end of the season, going by HRT last year… That’s if HRT even last that long!
Sorry to be harsh to HRT, but they don’t fill me with confidence.
Patrickl
9th March 2011, 19:28
In fact we have to wait if the will even start and if so, if they will be able to qualify within 107% and race.
Eggry (@eggry)
9th March 2011, 14:30
Well, Good news for Liuzzi, (relatively) Good news for HRT, but bad news for fans.
wasiF1 (@wasif1)
10th March 2011, 5:51
WHY?
At last we know that they will launch their car on Friday & now we know that they have a 2nd driver. It’s good news at least the fans knows that there will be 12 teams & 24 drivers on the grid of 2011.
MattHT (@mattht)
9th March 2011, 14:34
I’m not a huge fan but he’ll suit that sort of outfit i reckon. Does seem a bit wasteful by HRT in terms of not blooding new talent, but good in terms of team development.
slr
9th March 2011, 14:40
I’m happy for Liuzzi. I think 2011 will show us just how good or bad Liuzzi is. I don’t believe Liuzzi just all of a sudden turned rubbish in 2010. Before then, he was doing a solid job for Force India in 2009, and Toro Rosso in 2006 and late 2007. I think we will finally see what Liuzzi is truly made of this year.
Todfod (@todfod)
9th March 2011, 14:51
HRT is barely going to give him an opportunity to ‘show what he is made of’. At the most he will beat Karthikeyan in every race.. but then again so would De la Rosa, Klien, Chandhok, Grosjean and I hate to say it even Nelson Piquet Jr.
slr
9th March 2011, 15:01
If he can occassionally challenge Virgin and Lotus, then I think that will be a great effort from Tonio.
Todfod (@todfod)
9th March 2011, 16:06
Last year Virgin, Lotus and HRT were pretty much in the same league, as it was their debut year. It seems like Virgin and Lotus have made quite a bit of progress as compared to HRT, and I cant see Tonio battling with anyone other than his teammate, and occasionally D’Ambrosio
Patrickl
9th March 2011, 19:46
What “solid” job did Liuzzi do in 2009? Sutil got the car in Q3 for most races while Liuzzi didn’t even manage to get out of Q1!
They kept him on hoping that he would improve for 2010, but … well …
Franz Tost publicly lamented how poorly his drivers were doing. I doubt he thought that Liuzzi was doing a solid job at Torro Rosso.
I really doubt we will see what liuzzi is truly made off this year. That would depend on HRT making a “solid” car. Who can truly say that they have a good feel for the qualities of Senna or Chandhok from their HRT drives in 2010? More often than not they were simply nursing a broken car to the finish line.
Dan Thorn (@dan-thorn)
9th March 2011, 14:49
Loads of peopple in the know reckon Liuzzi is a monster of a driver, but that F1 cars have too much downforce for his driving style and he can’t show it.
Now that he’s going to be driving a car with no downforce we’ll see what all the fuss is about ;)
Todfod (@todfod)
9th March 2011, 14:52
You make a good point sir
PatrickL
9th March 2011, 15:18
Is the dowforce really significantly lower than it was before?
Dan Thorn (@dan-thorn)
9th March 2011, 15:28
It was an (admittedly poor) attempt at a joke as to how little downforce the HRT may produce…
Todfod (@todfod)
9th March 2011, 15:39
Its lower for every car on the grid. Dont see why HRT would be an exception
BasCB (@bascb)
9th March 2011, 15:51
Given that they had so little of it last year (did they even have a DD diffusor?), they might well be at about the same level or even better.
Todfod (@todfod)
9th March 2011, 16:03
I was under the impression that they did have a DD last year, but I could be wrong.
Kevin
9th March 2011, 15:05
Liuzzi’s career is pretty much over now
Kevin
9th March 2011, 15:07
*F1 Career that is
PatrickL
9th March 2011, 15:17
Well, he might suddenly start performing and kick his career in gear again.
Agreed, it’s doubtful, but it could happen :)
vjanik
9th March 2011, 15:13
the last test session was moved from Bahrain to Spain and postponed a few days, and still HRT have not turned a wheel. just shows how much they are struggling.
i would be surprised if we even see them in testing at all.
HRT are a non-team. even if they race the whole season it is a dead end for any driver. Liuzzi’s retirement is long overdue and he will take whatever he is offered at this point. he might have to move over later in the season for a paying driver. HRT are obviously not aiming to succeed in F1 or use his experience to develop the car. their aim seems to be just survival at this point. a few tenths of pace on the track is not what they are looking for.
BasCB (@bascb)
10th March 2011, 7:07
They would have used the extra time to get a few more nice parts ready, just like all the others.
Their success currently is making it on track and getting through the year.
King Six
9th March 2011, 15:21
I think Keith (Collaintine, the guy who runs this website) should do an article debunking the seemingly common opinion that Karthikeyan was the worst driver ever to step foot in an F1 car. He beat his team mate Monteiro in Qualifying over the season. Obviously there are people out there who deserve to be in F1 but aren’t, but that doesn’t mean that people like Karthikeyan or Liuzzi are unworthy of the sport either.
The Last Pope
10th March 2011, 1:56
I’d take Monteiro over Karthikeyan any day. Karthikeyan might have been faster than him over one lap, but he was brutal on the car often causing it to break, and if it didn’t break he would he would mess up his race by spinning it off. Mean while Montiero slow and steady picks up the places of those who have problems and finishes every race bar one and even gets a well earned point at spa. Karthikeyan is the one who should be driving touring cars not Montiero. I just hope now 6 years on he has lost some of his recklessness that has the potential to cause a nasty accident.
montreal95
10th March 2011, 10:26
And I’d take a feisty, more talented driver like Karthikeyan over a slow driver like Monteiro any day. In some qualy sessions Narain was 2 seconds faster than Monteiro. TWO seconds=a lifetime in modern F1. In the races Monteiro just trundled around at the back,and only picked up places as you rightly say when others had problems.
About Karthikeyan’s being a car breaker, you can’t know this, unless you are an insider of the team. Some people said the same about Raikkonen when he was in Mclaren, only somehow there were no signs of it in Sauber or Ferrari. Why is that?
Karthikeyan did spun off a few times, but it was only because he had to drive that piece of junk on the limit all the time in order to get performance out of it. Monteiro never even got close to the limits.IMO it’s because he doesn’t know how.
IMO Monteiro was one of the worst F1 drivers ever. It’s really hard to find a lesser talent after the end of the pay-driver era in mid nineties. I can think only about Yoong, Marques, Mazzacane, Ide, Yamamoto and Friesacher. Maybe there are a few other forgotten bad drivers, but anyway he’s in a bad company
Shimks
9th March 2011, 15:46
What are people’s thoughts on Geoff Willis? I would have thought he was a pretty solid resource for HRT going forward?
Red Andy (@red-andy)
9th March 2011, 16:12
Is he actually employed by the team or is he still in a “consultancy” role?
VXR
9th March 2011, 16:37
He’s just one of many techicians and engineers that have been employed by HRT to design and build the car.
Andy C
10th March 2011, 11:28
He is heading the design team from what I understand.
With all manner of gaffer tape and sticky back plastic at hand :-)
David A
9th March 2011, 17:06
Although it’s the worst seat on the grid, I guess Liuzzi can start by attempting to rebuild his reputation by convincingly beating Karthikeyan. If he gets lucky, he can get another midfield seat in the future.
Faraz
9th March 2011, 18:25
For some reason when a Japanese or Indian driver comes on the F1 grid everyone always seem to write them off Karun??
Did a decent job. Kobayashi? Suzuka? Silverstone? Valencia? need I say more??
The Last Pope
10th March 2011, 2:19
Thats not true. Nobody wrote off Kobayashi dispite the resent poor quality of Japanese drivers (Takagi, Nakano, Ide, Yakamoto, Nakajima). Every one was positive on him after his race for Toyota.
Everyone was also positive on Karthikeyan in 2005 at the season begining, especialy after he qualified very well at his 1st race. Only after it was discovered that he sucked in the actual races did he start to be writen off.
Likewise everyone has very positive about Chandok and apreciated the difficult job he had with no testing at all.
People are judging on performace. There is no racism going on here.
Patrickl
9th March 2011, 19:49
Has there been any word on how much Liuzzi (or his sponsors) paid to get this drive?
A while back there was a rumour that Liuzzi would actually hand over part of his severance settlement from FI to HRT so he could drive there.
BasCB (@bascb)
10th March 2011, 7:09
I think he claims he is not paying. Not to sure weather he has much personal sponsors to bring on board (but for HRT maybe a few will do, he must be raving to get them in that cool space!)
I would think the FI settlement will take a while to get done. After all, Giedo vd. Garde took some 2 years to extract his money back from the team.
Pink Pirelli
9th March 2011, 21:25
Unsurprising news really. Both sides had limited options, so it was only logical that they pair up in the end. We’ll see how it pans out, well, if FOM decides to give them any airtime, that is.
BasCB (@bascb)
10th March 2011, 7:10
Narain often made for quite spectacular wrestling with the car, so maybe they migh give him a bit of airtime.
James Williams
9th March 2011, 23:16
**** driver and the ********* team in history. Perfect match. I hope they crash and burn.
wasiF1 (@wasif1)
10th March 2011, 2:11
Trust me this is the most funniest team on the grid currently. First they were late in car launch,heaven knows how fast that car is,now they have probably one of the worst driver on the grid. I would prefer Kilen then Liuzzi, but who knows if the car is FAST then he may put up some surprises.
Alex Bkk (@alex-bkk)
10th March 2011, 2:44
So it may well end up that Luzzi, drives off into the sunset after a long and distinguished F1 career at HRT boasting “I’m faster than Karthikeyan” :P
AG
10th March 2011, 3:56
I would have liked to see Danica. Since I don’t HRT being a contender for anything except last place, then they might as well be a little less serious. No one takes them very seriously anyway, flow with it.
somerandomguy
10th March 2011, 6:31
HRT are an amazing team. The way their cars pull off the track to let the faster cars through is truly inspirational