Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, 2017

Raikkonen leads Hamilton in eventful session

2017 Canadian Grand Prix second practice

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Kimi Raikkonen lapped just one tenth of a second off last year’s Canadian Grand Prix pole position time as he led the second practice session of the day.

Romain Grosjean, Sebastian Vettel, Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, 2017
Canadian GP practice in pictures
Ferrari and Mercedes again occupied the top four places on the times sheets. Lewis Hamilton ended up two tenths of a second off Raikkonen’s best time, with just six-hundredths of a second covering him, Sebastian Vettel and Valtteri Bottas.

Max Verstappen was the only other driver to lap the track in under 74 seconds, but Red Bull endured a difficult session. Verstappen’s day ended 20 minutes before the chequered flag with a suspected gearbox problem. Long before then Daniel Ricciardo had already stopped with a broken engine.

Those who were able to join the track found the conditions little better than they had been in the morning, and many drivers spun as a result. The first two corners caught several of them out, including Bottas and Daniil Kvyat.

Stoffel Vandoorne also spun at the final chicane. His was the only McLaren circulating for much of the session until Fernando Alonso’s repaired car joined the fray with half an hour left to go. He then lost part of that time when Verstappen’s stoppage brought out the red flags. At around the same time Raikkonen came on the radio complaining two photographers were working in an unsafe position.

Both Force India drivers were well inside the top ten again, despite both drivers spinning at points during the session. Felipe Massa edged ahead of them for sixth place but his team mate Lance Stroll languished towards the bottom of the times sheets having not run the ultra-soft tyres.

Pos.No.DriverCarBest lapGapLaps
17Kimi RaikkonenFerrari1’12.93541
244Lewis HamiltonMercedes1’13.1500.21541
35Sebastian VettelFerrari1’13.2000.26541
477Valtteri BottasMercedes1’13.3100.37542
533Max VerstappenRed Bull-TAG Heuer1’13.3880.45325
619Felipe MassaWilliams-Mercedes1’14.0631.12838
714Fernando AlonsoMcLaren-Honda1’14.2451.31019
831Esteban OconForce India-Mercedes1’14.2991.36446
926Daniil KvyatToro Rosso-Renault1’14.4611.52638
1011Sergio PerezForce India-Mercedes1’14.5011.56641
118Romain GrosjeanHaas-Ferrari1’14.5661.63133
1227Nico HulkenbergRenault1’14.6041.66938
1355Carlos Sainz JnrToro Rosso-Renault1’14.6211.68643
1420Kevin MagnussenHaas-Ferrari1’14.6761.74135
153Daniel RicciardoRed Bull-TAG Heuer1’15.0722.1378
1630Jolyon PalmerRenault1’15.1272.19240
1718Lance StrollWilliams-Mercedes1’15.2402.30540
189Marcus EricssonSauber-Ferrari1’15.6112.67631
192Stoffel VandoorneMcLaren-Honda1’15.6242.68920
2094Pascal WehrleinSauber-Ferrari1’16.3083.37331

Second practice visual gaps

Kimi Raikkonen – 1’12.935

+0.215 Lewis Hamilton – 1’13.150

+0.265 Sebastian Vettel – 1’13.200

+0.375 Valtteri Bottas – 1’13.310

+0.453 Max Verstappen – 1’13.388

+1.128 Felipe Massa – 1’14.063

+1.310 Fernando Alonso – 1’14.245

+1.364 Esteban Ocon – 1’14.299

+1.526 Daniil Kvyat – 1’14.461

+1.566 Sergio Perez – 1’14.501

+1.631 Romain Grosjean – 1’14.566

+1.669 Nico Hulkenberg – 1’14.604

+1.686 Carlos Sainz Jnr – 1’14.621

+1.741 Kevin Magnussen – 1’14.676

+2.137 Daniel Ricciardo – 1’15.072

+2.192 Jolyon Palmer – 1’15.127

+2.305 Lance Stroll – 1’15.240

+2.676 Marcus Ericsson – 1’15.611

+2.689 Stoffel Vandoorne – 1’15.624

+3.373 Pascal Wehrlein – 1’16.308

Drivers more then ten seconds off the pace omitted.

Best times by tyre

DriverTeamBest ultra-soft timeUltra-soft gapBest super-soft timeSuper-soft gapBest soft timeSoft gap
Lewis HamiltonMercedes1’13.1500.2151’13.955None
Valtteri BottasMercedes1’13.3100.375None1’14.079
Daniel RicciardoRed BullNone1’15.0721.117None
Max VerstappenRed Bull1’13.3880.4531’14.5940.639None
Sebastian VettelFerrari1’13.2000.2651’14.0930.138None
Kimi RaikkonenFerrari1’12.9351’13.9900.035None
Sergio PerezForce India1’14.5011.5661’15.1671.212None
Esteban OconForce India1’14.2991.3641’15.0771.122None
Felipe MassaWilliams1’14.0631.128None1’15.3521.273
Lance StrollWilliamsNone1’15.2401.285None
Fernando AlonsoMcLaren1’14.6311.6961’15.1831.228None
Stoffel VandoorneMcLaren1’15.7972.862None1’15.6241.545
Carlos Sainz JnrToro Rosso1’14.6211.6861’15.3711.416None
Daniil KvyatToro Rosso1’14.4611.5261’15.1621.207None
Romain GrosjeanHaas1’14.5661.6311’15.6301.675None
Kevin MagnussenHaas1’14.6761.7411’16.0562.101None
Nico HulkenbergRenault1’14.6041.6691’15.3881.433None
Jolyon PalmerRenault1’15.1272.1921’16.3482.393None
Marcus EricssonSauber1’15.6112.6761’15.9541.999None
Pascal WehrleinSauber1’16.3083.3731’16.5502.595None

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67 comments on “Raikkonen leads Hamilton in eventful session”

  1. Should be a great qualifying tomorrow! On race pace, Lewis and Sebastian were doing really similar lap times, although Vettel constantly complained about being held up by Lewis.

    Got to hand it to Stroll… he’s literally is just strolling around the circuit on a leisurely joy ride, while the men go racing.

    Serious glory lap from Fernando at the end. I would be shocked if he actually manages to take that garbage bin in to Q3.

    1. Arad (@just-an-fan)
      9th June 2017, 20:37

      Hamster is back to his old self. He’ll do all he can to frustrate and take points off of Vettel. After all his hero was a man of that caliber.

      It just shows how desperate Lulu is. It was only FP2. Waiting for QP and race to see another Ferrari 1-2s. Hamster has been lucky that safety car and Ferrari’ bad calls played in his favour, otherwise it would have been 6-0 for Vettel.

      He knows it, Vettel knows and everybody know it.

      1. GOOD… Let the hate flow through you…

        1. Arad (@just-an-fan)
          9th June 2017, 20:50

          Honestly, I don’t hate. It is the British media, Hamster and his fans who hate the rest.

          The question is, why Seb, Dani, Max, Alo, Nico, Rai, Bot…..etc don’t get dislike(I prefer dislike to hate)??

          1. You just don’t get it. British media caters to British audience, and since Hamilton is the most popular driver there, this is what you get. It’s nothing new actually. Whenever there was a chance for a Brit to win the title, British media always ganged up on the opposition (French, German, Brazilian, Spanish, they did not discriminate). It’s not hate, it’s actually nothing personal for most of them – just good business. Although, I’ve heard that after recent Parliament elections people in the UK started to set rags like Daily Mail on fire, so perhaps people really started to realize they’ve been fed garbage… So here’s hoping people will be somewhat more critical towards what BBC and SKY presenters try to sell. But there is an obvious problem – on average, people in the UK (as well as other native English speakers in general) tend to speak other languages less than your average European, so French, German, or Italian press is not available for the majority.

          2. Arad (@just-an-fan)
            9th June 2017, 21:17

            I see what you say. I have been following the sport(and British commentary) for a while, but nothing comes close to the recent commentaries you hear from the likes of Sky(or channel 4 to an extent). Their bias towards Ham is ludicrous to an sickening and absurd level. They made me wanna visit the toilet 2-3 times during FP2 alone.

          3. You just don’t get it. British media caters to British audience, and since Hamilton is the most popular driver there, this is what you get.

            Partly true but “there” is too presumptive. I am British and have never liked Hamilton and know plenty of others who don’t. It is entirely because of that PR image of his and those idiotic comments he tends to make.

            While the British media supporting Hamilton is understandable, they tend to overdo it to a point to make it cloyingly disgusting, not to mention ridiculously distorted. Oliver Brown’s coverage of the Spanish and then the Monaco GPs are so obviously biased that it would make any sensible person want to throw-up.

          4. the british media is not homogeneous, especially in its sports coverage. itv and sky tend to be way more (painfully more) partisan than the bbc and channel 4 for instance. even when the same commentators are involved the tone of the coverage sways to something way more brit-supporting when you go from bbc to sky (david croft is the chief embarrassment).

            i’m sure it’s an editorial decision at some level, which demeans the viewers. i think hamilton is one of the all-time greats (and i don’t care about what he does off-track), but it p’sses me off when the british commentary is unduly bigging him up or doing down his foreign rivals.

          5. I really don’t get the British media thing. What do u expect from British media with their number 1 driver ffom their country. Of course they’re going to be a huge fan of his. Try watching Aussie media with F1! They think the only drivers ever in the history of F1 were Alan jones, Mark webber and Danny ric. Get over it already

          6. they dont get the same dislike for obvious reasons.
            i mean vettel can whinge and complain,and swear nonstop when things arent going his way,and people quickly forgive and forget.
            but if lewis does something people never forget and hold grudges.

          7. @loup-garou Sorry to burst your bubble but you can’t take yourself as an example to demonstrate that Hamilton is not popular in the UK. A recent survey showed that he is popular among F1 fan, no matter where they are from.
            So, if you and your friends can’t stand him (no matter how good he is behind a wheel :p ), that doesn’t make him unpopular in the process. Just slightly less popular that he could have been.

      2. He’ll do all he can to frustrate and take points off of Vettel

        It’s called racing. Maybe you’ve heard of it?

      3. Michael Brown (@)
        9th June 2017, 20:50

        He’ll do all he can to frustrate and take points off of Vettel

        By getting Bottas to do it and for Sky to deny that team orders occurred

      4. Good Grief, man, it’s friday night, you are supposed to be out chilling and you are here eating your heart out, instead.
        Hamilton is the best overall driver, doesn’t ask for a “first-driver” clause in his contract and he gets credit for it. Rightly so, deal with it.
        Maybe a tablet or two of maalox could help.

        1. Hamilton is the best overall driver

          Who was beaten by Rosberg last and Button in 2011?

          1. They say Alonso is the best driver in the world……

            Was he not embarrassed by a rookie?

        2. Arad (@just-an-fan)
          10th June 2017, 0:16

          Who is being outperformed by his own lapdog?

          1. Who is 2nd in the championship?

          2. how is he being outperformed when he has more points.
            even without the dnf lewis would still have more points than bottas.
            and its funny how all of lewis teammates are called lapdogs,when in reality they are very strong drivers.
            you talk like people havent been praising bottas for years.
            and nico more than held his own against schumacher.

        3. Hamilton is the best overall driver,

          No he isn’t. He has had the fastest car in all 3 of the WDCs that he has won and each time another driver has kept him honest. Massa in 2008 and then Rosberg in 2014 & 2015. And Rosberg won the WDC himself last season. Rosberg IMO is not a great driver my any means.

          Hamilton is a very good driver no doubt but even in the present field, Alonso, Vettel and Ricciardo are better than him. I would not include Verstappen in that group because despite his talent he has too much recklessness built-in for sustained success.

          1. and you act like lewis didnt have more mechanical issues and dnfs than rosberg last season.
            plus all but 1 of lewis team mates have been world champions,and he’s beat them all.
            and im pretty sure alonso won his wdcs in the best car,as did vettel,and yet you knock lewis for doing the same thing,although arguably the ferrari was a better car in 2008.
            and im pretty sure lewis more than held his own against alonso in 07.

          2. @Matt

            Don’t you know Lewis is the only driver not allowed to win in dominat cars and get credit for it?

            I mean, look at Senna, Prost, Fangio, Schumacher, Clark, Hill etc have all won in the most dominat cars of their era and they’re lauded for doing so. You’ll never hear, “oh, but they only won because they were in the best car”

            Let them say what they like, they can’t change the results and that’s what counts. Lewis sits in the top 3 of nearly every statistical category in F1’s history, he’s the only man since the WCC was introduced, to win a WDC in a car that didn’t win the WCC.

            It’s pointless trying to argue anything further, because you’ll never change their opinions. Lewis could stop world hunger and you’ll have people saying, “why didn’t you do that earlier” 😏

    2. Serious glory lap from Fernando at the end. I would be shocked if he actually manages to take that garbage bin in to Q3.

      Me too. If he does get into Q3, it is as good as winning the race. Better.

      It is a wonder that McLaren have not rolled-up the Honda contract and stuffed it down the latter’s throats, asking them to go to hell and courts if they wish. It is my bet that Honda will not want to “lose face” even if the law is on their side. The company would be humiliated.

  2. I don’t recall ever seeing so many spins in one session. Somebody should splice them all into one clip and we can vote on whose spin was nicest.

    It looks like the talk about Ferrari dominance and Mercedes problems was a little overblown. the two teams still look very evenly matched.

    1. I was gonna say the same thing I don’t think there was ever 5 mins without someone going off here and there. I rarely watch the practice but surely that’s a little bit unusual

  3. Arad (@just-an-fan)
    9th June 2017, 20:33

    The question is not whether or not Ferrari should get 100m a year. The question is, what Force India has done to deserve equal money as Ferrari.

    Sick and tired of those Sky sport muppets. As usual, they are all out against Ferrari. Then they talked about Monaco, “We didn’t like it and fans didn’t like it” haha yes, fans certainly loved it when on multiple occasions Mercedes has called Bottas to errand for Lulu. They are absolutely disgusting, I was having my dinner, they made me sick in my stomach.

    1. No other team has benefited and cheated as much Ferrari, they are still payed much more then any other team. I have zero sympathy for any perceived towards Ferrari.

      1. one word: benetton

        1. You took the name right out of my mouth.
          Oh and pretty much every British based non turbo team of the early 80s

    2. @just-an-fan

      You’ve got a real point there.

      Let’s Manchester United, Real Madrid and other EPL and La Liga big names more money so they can continue to have an edge over competition. Let’s also give Federer a million dollars before he starts a Grand Slam, since he’s been playing for over a decade now and is the most successful tennis player of all time. How can the NBA not pay the Lakers and Celtics more for their rich heritage in the sport?!?! It’s just propestorous!!!

      I mean how can every sport not value their greats the same way Formula 1 values Ferrari. It’s a real travesty! Ferrari is Formula 1.

      1. I guess you don’t fully understand how advertising works

        1. @psi
          I’ve spent over a decade in advertising. Although your 2 cents would be invaluable…

      2. Arad (@just-an-fan)
        9th June 2017, 20:58

        So in your mind, it is alright to give a team like force India, or any other team that pops up like mushroom the same amount of money as Ferrari, Mclaren, Williams, Mercedes, RedBull… ?? What Force India has done for the sport? Do they bring the same amount of fans/viewing to the sport? Do Force India generate the same level of attention as ferrari do?

        Imagine the series without Ferrari, Mclaren, Williams, RedBull and Merceds out of F1, who is going to follow Force India?

        I said that not because I am a Ferrari fan, but because that makes sense.

        1. @just-an-fan

          Spoken like the true red tifosi!

          Do you realise that Formula 1 is a sport and not a entertainment platform? Formula 1 isn’t Netflix… where the popular sitcoms and movies get paid a lot in license fees while the less popular shows get paid lesser. This is a sport, and if Ferrari want to earn that $100 mln, they should try and do it by beating everyone else on track and winning championships.

          Going by your logic, the FOM should pay Lewis Hamilton as well, since he’s attracted new fans to the sport. They should pay Fernando every time Spain tunes in to watch him race. They should not pay Palmer anything as he’s never added any value whatsoever.

          These royalty payouts to Ferrari are an absolute sham. It’s Ferrari’s blackmail on the sport saying that if they leave, the fans leave with them. It would be ridiculous if every team or individual in every sport started making these kinds of demands.

          Let’s add Ferrari’s veto rights in to the mix and discuss how ridiculous Formula 1 was during the Bernie era.

          1. Excellent arguments @todfod. I’m sure @just-an-fan would love to see Hamilton getting preferred treatment over the others drivers for all the exposure and fans he brought to the sport over the last decade (remember that FOM is chasing the US and Hamilton is popular there).
            Oh wait…

          2. Arad (@just-an-fan)
            10th June 2017, 12:59

            Hahahhaa I almost chuckled!! The exposure and fans he brought?? haha yeah, that’s right. BTW Kim Kardashian has many fans too, so does Justin bieber and Jay Z. haha Of course Lulu didn’t need prefrential treatment as he (except 2007) he never had a team mate of Seb’s or Alo’s caliber. You should start asking questions how is it that drivers like Rosberg, Button and Bottas outperform your racing God.

      3. Arad (@just-an-fan)
        9th June 2017, 21:02

        PS

        Yes, who said life is easy? Force India wants the same amount of money? then they have to work for it. They have not won a single race so they don’t deserve anything more than they already get.

        1. But why do Red Bull and Mercedes get larger heritage payments than McLaren or Williams? The system is unfair. I believe in Heritage payments but the Ferrari one is way too big in comparison. Imagine F1 with ONLY Ferrari?

      4. Let’s (give) Manchester United, Real Madrid and other EPL and La Liga big names more money so they can continue to have an edge over competition.

        I think you mean that sarcastically, but in fact that’s exactly the way it works and what the Champions League is all about.

    3. “Sick and tired of those Sky sport muppets.”

      maybe they someone’s puppets?

    4. Broken record time. Smh

      1. Force India entered F1 in 2008 and in that time have won the same amount of driver’s world championships as Ferrari and just one less constructors championship.

    5. multiple occassions when bottas was alot slower than lewis.
      look at how far back bottas finished behind lewis in those races.

  4. Stroll smh..

  5. I am SICK SICK SICK of listening to the “Kimi is not allowed to finish ahead of Vettel” narrative going on at Sky. It’s become pretty unbearable now. I deserve better than their stubborn stupid soap opera narrative. Their comments defy all logic now. Ridiculous bias going on there.

    1. they’re part of Mercedes team. Get used to it :)

    2. Michael Brown (@)
      9th June 2017, 20:55

      Bottas could pull over for Hamilton and Sky would still blame Ferrari.

      “It’s necessary since Vettel is Ferrari’s number one!”

      1. “It’s necessary since Vettel is Ferrari’s number one!”

        You are right there lol. Circular reasoning.

    3. @Kanan Nobody forces you to watch SKY F1.

  6. Who cares?

  7. In other news, Stroll seems to be very consistant…. consistantly 1.2s behind his teammate (who isn’t exactly known for his one lap pace either)

    1. I think he’s no worse than Vandoorne atm.

      1. He’s no further off his teammate, true…

        But since when does Massa = Alonso?

        1. Germany 2010

      2. @antoine-de-paris Absolutely not. Stroll is further away from an average driver than Vandoorne is to a world class one.

        1. @mashiat
          Vandoorne is said to be still a junior driver. Never seen anything like that before. He’s static.
          https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mclaren-vandoorne-held-back-by-junior-career-driving-style-914868/

  8. With a good start and a first corner dust up ahead Alonso might have to stick with McLaren next year if he is true to his threat.

  9. Ben Rowe (@thegianthogweed)
    9th June 2017, 22:25

    I still think Bottas will have a good chance at getting pole here. He’s been really strong here in previous years and qualified 3rd in a terrible car in 2013 too. He also has 2 podiums and one of them was last year when Williams wasn’t really one of the best cars anymore. Hamilton is also strong so he could well get pole too. But I think the race will quite likely be a Mercedes 1 – 2. We will see.

  10. How did Alonso drag that McLaren to post the 7th fastest time!?

    1. 6/10s + pushin’ like an animal + Indy experience

    2. By setting a fastest lap much later than anyone else.

      1. talk about grasping for straws….

    3. By running very low on fuel, as usual. Alonso is a master at the art of self-promotion.

      1. @elio 😂😂😂😂 And some people trully believe Alonso “dragged” that car, he simply did super low fuel run like you said.

      2. Is that why he was able to qualify seventh two races ago? By running lower fuel than anyone? LOL

      3. @elio Yes FA would be the one deciding how much fuel they should have.

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